In the Beginning.....

Today was an honor. Imagine, to be there at the birth of a brand new scam. Not a very good one, mind you, and it still needs a lot of work but a new scam all the same. But at the same time it’s part of a new trend, if you don’t bite right away they won’t chat with you. This one had a lot of potential for entertainment value but they just didn’t want to play.

The gist of their scam is that they get payments in the US and need someone to deposit it them for them, because their customers all pay with postal money orders. You cash them and send them cash via western union. Of course the money orders are forgeries and the money will be gone forever but what harm is there in that? Gee I know a lot of companies that send the payables manager down to the post office to stand in line for 30 minutes with cash to get money orders so they can pay bills.

I think this will be a flash in the pan type scam. Kind of like you won the lottery scams. Too silly to be taken seriously. I have to believe that in the world of scams sex and greed are the way to go.






anita11434: Hello,Am Anita,am from England and am looking for a representative in the states who will be working for us as a partime worker and we are willing to pay 300 dollas for every transaction,which wouldnt affect ur present state of work,if u are interested pls am online u can chat with me.
BUZZ!!!
me: what's that?
anita11434: are u intrested?
me: ok I'll listen
anita11434:
first off all i will like to know ur asl and what u do for a living
Am 29/ female / England, london,I work for Global mineral sourcing agency limited in england
me: where in england?
anita11434: central london
me: I see like where?
anita11434: liverpool
me: ohh ok
anita11434: Our main factory is located in africa were we extract the raw materials need for the manufacturing of fabrics,but all transfers and anything that has to do with payments are refered to England
me: so when did liverpool move?
me: I must have missed that on the news
anita11434: what?
anita11434:
we are looking for a representative in the states, someone who would help us recieve payments from our customers in the states.
me: why?
anita11434: cause the cost of coming to the state and getting payments is very expensive, we can spend up 1,300 dollas only in buying tickets,so we need a representative in the united state who willbe handling that aspect,
anita11434: We are willing to pay 10% per evrypayment u recieve ,and you can still keep ur regular job while you work for us
me: why don't you just have them send checks to england and deposit them in the bank?
anita11434: cos it can't be cashed over there
me: why not?
anita11434: they are paying us with usps money order
me: why would they do that?
anita11434: All you have to do is help us recieve payments from our customers in the states.These payments are in usps money order and they would come to you in your name, so all you need do is cash the cheque collect your payment and wire the rest to us via western union
me: who are your customers?????
anita11434: they are down there in the state
anita11434:
The problem we have is trust,But we have our way of getting anyone that gets away with our money,i mean the IRS.........
me: yes but what do they do?
anita11434: they buy goods from us
me: what sort of goods?
anita11434: we extract the raw materials need for the manufacturing of fabrics
me: so they are companies?
anita11434: not all of them
anita11434:
If you are interested i would send you an employment letter which you are to sign and send back to me as soon as possible and i would need you to give me your full name ,home address e-mail address and your phone number for me to get in contact withyou.
me: why don't you require people to pay you by check or wire transfer
me: or even paypal?
anita11434: cos that is the mode of payment they said they would be paying us with
me: that's stupid
anita11434: and you know costomers always right
me: well no customer is going to choose to use postal money orders
me: they are a pain in the ass... you have to take cash to the post office stand in line for 20 minutes to get the thing
me: but hey this is new.... I haven't had a new scam in a long time
anita11434: thai not a scam
anita11434: ok
me: sure it is
me: I just did a search on yahoo uk
me: for Global mineral sourcing agency limited
me: and guess what it doesn't fucking exist
anita11434: what?
me: you also need to figure out where you are....
anita11434: is still under sonstruction
me: oic
me: so what tube stop are you on?
anita11434: i don't understand u
anita11434: ok
me: well if your from London you'd understand me
anita11434: liverpool tube
anita11434: ok
me: what line?
me: your scam really needs a lot more work...
me: it's an interesting twist
anita11434: what do u mean by that
anita11434: it just a proposal
anita11434: ok
me: but don't tell people you're from England when you don't know anything about it
me: except maybe the names of the football teams in the permiership
anita11434: am not into sport
anita11434: ok
anita11434:
If you are interested i would send you an employment letter which you are to sign and send back to me as soon as possible and i would need you to give me your full name ,home address e-mail address and your phone number for me to get in contact withyou.

me: see.. you need someone else...
me: someone that doesn't do business in the UK
me: and is a lot more stupid
me: becasue I'm sure you're another lame ass scarm artist who couldn't find your way around london if your life depended on it
me: but hey you get some marks... it's a new scam I haven';t seen this one before

So When does a mistake become a lie?

The more I do this, the more I'm amazed by the rationalization. Today's edition said they were from Dublin. Now I spend a lot of time in Dublin, I know it almost as well as home. So when I started asking my new "Irish" friend about Dublin it was pretty clear they weren't even sure what part of the world Ireland was in. When I asked them what the name of the river was in Dublin there was a long pause followed by the answer of the Ohio River. I haven't been to Dublin in a few months but I don't think they renamed the Liffey in my absence!

They are starting to use a new tactic, admission of guilt when they get caught. But of course it's not a lie.. just a mistake.

This one never did get to the scam part of the program but we all know where it was going.

jess4love2004: hi
me: hi
jess4love2004: where r u from ???
me: california you?
BUZZ!!!
jess4love2004: what ya name huh ..???
me: Scott
jess4love2004: san diego
jess4love2004: alright ..
jess4love2004: your age
me: I'm 50
jess4love2004: u have webcam ?? online
me: yes
jess4love2004: ok can i see you
jess4love2004: U MARRIED
jess4love2004: how many kids ?
me: widower no kids
jess4love2004: wow
jess4love2004: is that u ???
me: who else would it be
jess4love2004: u look great ????
me: thanks
jess4love2004: U At WHERE NOW
jess4love2004: OFFICE OR HOME ??
me: home office
jess4love2004: U at home or office
jess4love2004: scott ...are u stay alone ???
me: office in my home
jess4love2004: ok that great
jess4love2004: u stay alone ??
me: yes
jess4love2004: oh is that ur room
jess4love2004: i'm at my mother country now ,..
jess4love2004: rep of ireland ///
me: where in Irelad?
jess4love2004: an i love to married americanme: Ireland?
jess4love2004: dublin city ...
me: ohh ok where in Dublin?
jess4love2004: can u still play with women ???
me: of course
jess4love2004: awesome park
jess4love2004: ok ,.
me: ?
jess4love2004: so scott can i come an see you over there
jess4love2004: becuz mt wish is to come to the state i short time
me: I can see you in Dublin
jess4love2004: ok u can come right there in dulin city
me: I'm there 6 or 7 times a year
me: where in Dublin are you?
jess4love2004: \i want to come ...right there in usa
jess4love2004: ok
me: well not much stopping you
jess4love2004: scott u irish
me: no
jess4love2004: ok,..i can become your wife
me: don't even know you
jess4love2004: i see u nice and u know my place
me: yes
jess4love2004: check at my profile for my picture
jess4love2004: okay
jess4love2004: jessica is my name
me: I did... you don't look very Irish
jess4love2004: my friend call me [ beauty jess.].
jess4love2004: well ,..yes
me: I see
me: so where in Dublin are you?
jess4love2004: i take the picture when i went to beach to play
jess4love2004: dublin 2
me: what street?
jess4love2004: u mean my street
jess4love2004: oka
me: you near the GPO?
me: or Ballsbridge?
jess4love2004: oh it just
jess4love2004: over the second place
jess4love2004: to my place
jess4love2004: like 30 minute moves
jess4love2004 has stopped viewing your webcam.

jess4love2004: oh u know my place
jess4love2004: alot u great man
jess4love2004: infact i like u
me: well I don't think you're from dub
jess4love2004: may be if i'm still here before u come
jess4love2004: u can come an see my mother ,.
me: ok
jess4love2004: i'm why u sald that
me: you don't seem to know much about it
jess4love2004: much about what
jess4love2004: my place
me: dublin
jess4love2004: why ?
jess4love2004: u want to know
jess4love2004: or what
jess4love2004: u asked me an i have answer u
me: well except it was a test
me: neither the gpo or ballsbridge are in dublin 2
jess4love2004: K
me: what's the name of the river in dublin?
jess4love2004: NEITHER GPO OR BALLSBRIDGE
me: what's the name of the river in dublin?
me: still here?
jess4love2004: SORRY BOT BOOTED
me: I see
jess4love2004: I THINK
jess4love2004: IT CALLED Rivers Ohio Worthington
jess4love2004: OR WHAT DO U THINK
me: I think you'd have trouble finding Dublin on a map if your life depended on it
jess4love2004: OR Olentangy River
me: damn you're not even good at google
jess4love2004: U KNOW ONLY MY MOM STAY RIGHT THERE ,..AFTER MY DADDY DIE ..I SAY WITH MY DADDY IN INDIANA .....
me: you searched rivers dublin
me: and not rivers dublin ireland
jess4love2004: WHAT U MEAN HUH
me: well you don't have a clue as to what the name of the river in dublin ireland is
jess4love2004: MY MOM STAY IN DUBLIN JUST WENT TO SEE HER ,..AFTER MY DADDY ..
jess4love2004: DIE ..
jess4love2004: SO I DON';T KNOW ALL ABOUT DUBLIN CITY
me: yeah but if you'd been in Dublin for more than an hour you'd know the name of the river
jess4love2004: OK ..DON'T EVER ASKED
jess4love2004: MAY BE I WILL ASKED
jess4love2004: LATER
me: so what have you done in Dublin?
jess4love2004: STAY WITH MOM
me: what did you see in town?
jess4love2004: YES
jess4love2004: WELL ,...NOTHINGS MUCH
jess4love2004: GREAT
me: I see when did you get there?
jess4love2004: in 1 week
jess4love2004: just come an see mom
me: I see where did you come from?
jess4love2004: becuz she is not alright
jess4love2004: usa
jess4love2004: indiana
me: ohh okay... which way did you go?
jess4love2004: an i'm citizen of Nigeria
me: ahh now the truth comes out
jess4love2004: yes becuz i will still let you know
jess4love2004: i'm true person
jess4love2004: an i believe in God
jess4love2004: so u knows now
me: well except for lying about Dublin and Indiana
jess4love2004: none
jess4love2004: i can't lie
jess4love2004: about what i don't know
me: ok tell me how you flew from Indiana to Ireland
me: what airlines... what airports
jess4love2004: indianapoli Airline
me: that's a city not an airline
jess4love2004: so,..are wicked ???
me: no I just like people to tell me the truth
jess4love2004: becuz u asked much question
me: and when they lie to me I like to see how far they will go before they tell me the truth
jess4love2004: well
jess4love2004: well
jess4love2004: this the truth
jess4love2004: never in my life lie
me: well there is no such thing as Indianopi airline
jess4love2004: i'm from nigeria citizen
me: that I do believe
jess4love2004: my mom from rep of ireland ...
me: I see
jess4love2004: an i even seing her since my daddy die
jess4love2004: she go back to her place
me: but you don't even know how you got there
jess4love2004: an i'm looking for an opportunity to come to usa .....
jess4love2004: yes ...
me: well if you were in indiana you must have a green card
jess4love2004: i was not born there
jess4love2004: so don't have one
me: green cards are for resident aliens
jess4love2004: ok
me: if your mom is Irish you can get an Irish passport
jess4love2004: i know ...
jess4love2004: but she is not
jess4love2004: i think so
me: you just said your mom is Irish
jess4love2004: mistake typing
jess4love2004: none ,..she is not
me: that's big mistake
me: the irish don't give out many visas to Africans
jess4love2004: ok
jess4love2004: yes ..like uk
me: much worse than the UK
jess4love2004: ok
jess4love2004: yes i got about 2 brother in uk
me: I see
jess4love2004: so ...mr scott nice to meet you
me: ok
jess4love2004: but u are very interligent man ,..also serious and nice ,.may be i can be your daughter
jess4love2004: or your small friend ,..from Nigeria
jess4love2004: what ur religion ????
me: I don't have one
me: so does ths mean you've come clean
jess4love2004: i'm christian ????
me: you're not in Ireland?
jess4love2004: yes i'm not
me: but you never lie
jess4love2004: it is mistake
me: big mistake
jess4love2004: also just to make friend and talk ,play online
me: so what's the difference between a mistake and a lie?
jess4love2004: yes i know
jess4love2004: i'm sorry
jess4love2004: i'm so so sorry ...
jess4love2004: sir mr scott
me: ok so my guess is you were going to hit me up for money
me: that's the usual deal
jess4love2004: none
jess4love2004: nonoe
jess4love2004: it is not true
me: Right and I'm really George Bush
jess4love2004: no
jess4love2004: no
jess4love2004: i know him ???
jess4love2004: but i see your face ...in webcam
jess4love2004: u are not
jess4love2004: Mr scott
me: ohh ok
jess4love2004: please don;t lie
me: might not have really been me
jess4love2004: so if u are bush ...please help to america
jess4love2004: by tell them to release me visa to come to america
me: sorry can't help you there
jess4love2004: Mr scott ,..
jess4love2004: u are my father
me: no I'd have remembered having sex with your mom
jess4love2004: k
me: plus I know you're not the woman in the picture
jess4love2004: why
jess4love2004: don';t say that
jess4love2004: we have been taking many things
me: because I bet 20 different "women" have sent me pictures of the same girl
jess4love2004: ye ye
jess4love2004: how ??
me: you tell me..
jess4love2004: i don't know
jess4love2004: how that will be
me: I keep seeing pics of the same girl over and over
jess4love2004: i can't understand that
jess4love2004: u means ??
jess4love2004: someone send u picture of the same girl 2 times
jess4love2004: i don';t know ...what u mean
me: oh I've seen at least 10 different women with the same pic
jess4love2004: i think that is over what we are talking
jess4love2004: how that will happened
jess4love2004: i don't really really understand ...they are using the same picture
me: well I think people use pictures of pretty mixed race women in hopes that they will convince someone to send them money just on a picture
me: I know you were going to ask me for money to come to the US so you could meet me... it's the way the story always goes
me: it's just you were so bad at it and got so tongue tied I caught you before you got a chance

No Remorse

This started as a pretty typical scam. The usual damsel in distress, needing money to come home. This one took an interesting turn though, when I called them on the fact that they'd been lying they changed gears and admitted it, then proceded to tell me they were a school boy and his friend had convinced him to try this and this was the first time he had ever done it. The profile they were using had been active since last November and the pictures they sent had been forwarded from several other very similar names to the one they were using now. My guess is that even the new "come clean" story wasn't true and that they were only trying to salvage their time inventment.

The most telling part of the story though is they didn't see that asking for money under false pretenses was fraud.


tracynicole111: hi
me: hi
tracynicole111: ur name
tracynicole111: asl?
me: scott
me: I'm old
me: m
me: california
me: you?
tracynicole111: that coool
tracynicole111: I am tracy by name
tracynicole111: what do you do for a lviving?
me: partner in a software company
me: where are you from?
tracynicole111: I am from usa
tracynicole111: la
tracynicole111: i am a businesslady
tracynicole111: what ur age
me: I'm 50..
me: LA as in los angeles or LA louisiana?
tracynicole111: that coool of you
tracynicole111: los angeles
me: ohh ok where in LA? I'm there all the time
tracynicole111: Ohh really?
me: really
me: I'll be there a good part of June
tracynicole111: That will cool of you
tracynicole111: so what do you come and do here?
me: I've got clients there
tracynicole111: Ohh that cool of you
tracynicole111: ]are you single/
me: yes I'm a widower
me: so what part of LA?
tracynicole111: I am also single
me: ok
tracynicole111: I finish my studies last 4 month
tracynicole111: so i fall into business
me: I see.... where?
tracynicole111: I travil all over
tracynicole111: So i am in west africa right now
me: I see
tracynicole111: Yes
me: where did you grow up in LA
tracynicole111: in the town
me: well LA is huge.... what part?
tracynicole111: okkk
tracynicole111: I mean my city name?
me: yes most people from LA are a little more specific..
tracynicole111: Why do you say that?
BUZZ!!!
me: my wife was from LA... I must know 200 people and they all would say specifically where they were from
tracynicole111: la crescenta
tracynicole111: ok
me: ohh ok
tracynicole111: so can you tell me much about urself"
me: I'm a partner in a software company
me: la crescenta.... that's over near orange county isn't it? off the 405?
tracynicole111: Yes it's
tracynicole111: so what are you upto to night?
me: not much still the afternoon here
tracynicole111: That cool
tracynicole111: u got cam/
tracynicole111: ?"?
me: yes
tracynicole111: can i view u ?
me: still there?
tracynicole111: yes
tracynicole111: Why don't you get married since this days?
me: haven't met anyone I wanted to marry
tracynicole111: Ohh
tracynicole111: really?
me: really
tracynicole111: what ur email address?
tracynicole111: so i can send u my pics
me: me@yahoo.com
tracynicole111: ok
tracynicole111: Well i am sending you a pics
me: ok
tracynicole111: while i was singing on my sister's birthday
tracynicole111: that is last 2 weeks
me: ic
tracynicole111: Yes
tracynicole111: so what have been doing to day/?
me: working
tracynicole111: that coool
tracynicole111: But u are at home?
me: I work from home if I'm not travelling
tracynicole111: that cool of you
tracynicole111: so do you got my pics/
tracynicole111: ?
me: you look good
tracynicole111: really?
tracynicole111: thanks
tracynicole111: tell me
tracynicole111: what u like in my pics?
me: sure you look great
tracynicole111: thanks
tracynicole111: so can i give me a visite
tracynicole111: as soon as am back to usa?
me: sure or I could meet you in LA
tracynicole111: Yes
tracynicole111: that will be better
tracynicole111: ok
tracynicole111: how can we meet?
tracynicole111: what are you doing there
tracynicole111: just busy with the screen
me: just let me know where and when and when I'm down there I can meet you
tracynicole111: Ohh
me: drop me an e-mail when you get back to LA
tracynicole111: maybe as soon as i am back to usa
tracynicole111: Then i willl call you
me: drop me an e-mail
tracynicole111: ok
tracynicole111: tht will be fine
tracynicole111: can u give me a call rright now
tracynicole111: ?
me: I don't make international calls to Africa
tracynicole111: why
tracynicole111: ?
me: it's expensive
me: I don't know you at all
tracynicole111: ohh
tracynicole111: it dosn't matter
me: ok
BUZZ!!!
tracynicole111: scott
tracynicole111: I want you to do me a favour
me: what's that?
tracynicole111: I am gottn a problem
me: ic
tracynicole111: here
tracynicole111: I am getting a little problem with the hotel maniger
me: I see
tracynicole111: Ye
tracynicole111: the hotel maniger have taken my passort
tracynicole111: so
tracynicole111: he have hold that 1 at hand
tracynicole111: Cos i am little
me: just go to the embassy and report it missung
tracynicole111: feed up of here
tracynicole111: No
tracynicole111: I can't do that
me: why not?
tracynicole111: Cos i am fault
tracynicole111: I am owning the hotel abouut 280$
me: ic
tracynicole111: And i told the hotel maniger
tracynicole111: I don't have any money with me
tracynicole111: that as soon as i get back to usa
tracynicole111: then i will send the money back to him
tracynicole111: the hotel maniger told me
tracynicole111: No
me: I see
me: bummer
tracynicole111: yES
tracynicole111: i am just feed up of here
tracynicole111: I am eager to go back to la
me: IC
tracynicole111: Yes
me: well it's foolish to travel without enough money
tracynicole111: I wish i can clear the bill
tracynicole111: then i will be in the la back by weekend
tracynicole111: Yes
tracynicole111: His just tht
tracynicole111: i have use all the money with me
tracynicole111: To buy tickect
tracynicole111: so i don't have much money again with me
me: what ticket?
tracynicole111: To go back to la
me: where are you in Africa?
tracynicole111: In lagos
me: so how did you get a nigerian visa if you only had a one way ticket?
me: and why would you buy a one way ticket in the 1st place?
tracynicole111: As soon as i arrive to nigeria
tracynicole111: I just but a tickect
tracynicole111: and book for 3 days
tracynicole111: in the hotel
me: that didn't answer my question
tracynicole111: So now my money is over in the hotel
tracynicole111: So i couldn't see any money to pay the hotel anymore
me: see I travel for a living and you would have been denied boarding in the US if you didn't have an onward ticket out of Nigeria
tracynicole111: I have alrready bought a ticket to move out of nigera
tracynicole111: Hope it clear to you
tracynicole111: ?
me: you would have had to have it before you left the US
tracynicole111: it becos
tracynicole111: I don't no much about that
me: yeah I can tell
me: you don't know much about LA either
tracynicole111: what do you mean?
me: you don't know where la crescenta is
tracynicole111: I don't just go out much
tracynicole111: I only go to the africa and buy goods
tracynicole111: that's all
me: I see... but most people know where they live
tracynicole111: yes
me: you don't have a flippin clue
tracynicole111: I am just feed up of here
me: you're pretty bad at this....
me: but then so is everyone from Africa that claims to be American
me: never met anyone that could actually fool me
tracynicole111: what do you mean
tracynicole111: ?
me: you're not from LA
me: you're not stuck in a hotel
me: you're not the person in the pictures
me: you're just hoping to convince me to send you money
tracynicole111 has stopped viewing your webcam.

BUZZ!!!
tracynicole111: helllo
me: hi
tracynicole111: I agree
me: with what?
tracynicole111: i am not the one on the pics
tracynicole111: Well you like to no much about me
me: what a surprise
tracynicole111: well i am 13 years going to 14
me: I see
tracynicole111: male
me: so anyone ever send you money?
tracynicole111: so can i still view ur cam
tracynicole111: No
tracynicole111: One of my class mate
tracynicole111: Just introduse this to me
tracynicole111: Lat nigth
me: there are lots of African conartists
tracynicole111: last night i mean
tracynicole111: so u are the first person
me: don't try it again
tracynicole111: I am chatting with
tracynicole111: why do you say so?
tracynicole111: scott?
me: it's stealing
tracynicole111: Yes i no
tracynicole111: But oour economy here is very bad
tracynicole111: I am doing this to you
tracynicole111: Cos i am having my examition by next week
tracynicole111: And i will have to pay for it
tracynicole111: so i just need money
tracynicole111: that why i came here to do such things
me: well fraud is not a way to get it
tracynicole111: I never belive this is a fraud
tracynicole111: Cos this is an exprience work
tracynicole111: Not a fraud okay
tracynicole111: ??
me: it's fraud
me: it's getting money on false pretenses
tracynicole111: we children we do this
tracynicole111: to go to school
tracynicole111: Cos we don't have any body to take care of me
me: well no matter what yuor circumstances lying to get money isn't right
me: it just shows how much is wrong with Africa
me: I talk with poor people in Viet Nam and Laos and they never lie to get money
tracynicole111: oHH
tracynicole111: if so sir
tracynicole111: I am very sorry
tracynicole111: His just that i don't want to loose my exam
me: plus you're lying about this being the 1st time you tried it
tracynicole111: Just confessed
me: but you're still a liar and a cheat no matter what your circumstances
tracynicole111: Okay
tracynicole111: My apolopgy
me: I think the only reason you are apologizing is you got caught so you're trying another tactic
me: but hey you get bonus points for initiative.. most of you just scream profanity at me when they figure out I'm on to them
tracynicole111: Ohh
tracynicole111: do you have a child like me
tracynicole111: ?
me: no
me: if I found out my kid was trying to cheat people on the internet I'd beat the crap out of them
tracynicole111: well sir
tracynicole111: can u help me
me: no
tracynicole111: WITH 100$
me: why would I want to help someone that lied to me?
me: how do I know you're telling the truth now
me: I think you're still lying
tracynicole111: I am not ying sir
me: I doubt you're 13
me: well when you start a conversation with a lie how could you tell the truth?
tracynicole111: I have break it up
me: huh?
tracynicole111: and i hav tell you all my mind
me: well I've told you mine...
me: you can't even see the little scam you pulled originally is dishonest
me: It's really sad... the entire continent has lost any sense of moral value
me: and any kind of work ethic
me: a nation of liars and cheats
tracynicole111: it okay
tracynicole111: I can see u can't help me
me: and I can see that you don't see anything wrong with what you are trying to do
me: which is even sadder