We've all gotten them.. Those get rich quick e-mails from Africa.. Well I have a knack for having them find me in chat and I have a hobby.. tormenting them.. stringing them along making them look foolish and publishing it here for all to see.. Who knew scams could be so funny

Tuesday, May 31, 2005

Declining Quality

It's been a slow couple of weeks in the scam world. There have been plenty of scam artists around but either the word has gotten out that that there are people like me jerking their chain or they are just much poorer quality scam artists. Most of them won't even enter into a conversation any more. They make their pitch and if you don't bite right away they stop chatting. It could be a good thing, maybe they are meeting with less success. One can hope, but my fear is there is no shortage of gullible people in this world to rip off.

Today I finally had someone chat with me for a few minutes. Same old MO beautiful picture, from the states with a store in Africa. This one said she was from San Francisco which was interesting since that's where I live but this one didn't even try to convince me. As soon as I pointed out that she couldn't actually tell me where she was from she gave up. You just don't see good scam artists any more... Where are the ones that take pride in their work?

brandy2pq: hi
me: hi
brandy2pq: hey
brandy2pq: how are u doing today
me: I'm okay... you?
brandy2pq: Am fine
brandy2pq: Am Brandy by name and urs?
me: Scott
brandy2pq: nice to meet ya scott
me: nice to meet you too
me: where are you from?
brandy2pq: CA
me: where in CA?
brandy2pq: San fran
me: ohh ok I'm from San mateo
brandy2pq: okay
brandy2pq: Are u married?
me: no I'm a widower
brandy2pq: Oh am sorry
me: well was a long time ago now
brandy2pq: okay
me: what do you do?
brandy2pq: i own a store in africa
me: I see why?
brandy2pq: nuthing
me: ok
brandy2pq: are u on cam
me: yes
brandy2pq: can i see u
brandy2pq: wow u look cute
brandy2pq: u live alone
me: what part of SF are you from?
me: yes I live alone
me: thanks
brandy2pq: u?
me: what's that?
brandy2pq: part of San mateo
me: very noeth end close to Burlingame Ave..
me: so where in SF are you from?
brandy2pq: near San Francisco
me: so like what town?
brandy2pq: Bay Area

me: any reason you do'nt want to tell me what place?
brandy2pq: San Fran Bay Area, CA

me: ummm you have never actually been to the Bay Area have you?
brandy2pq: yes
brandy2pq: that is where i live
me: so how come you don't know what town you're from?
brandy2pq: Am from Bay Area
me: bay area isn't a town.. it's the whole region dear
brandy2pq: bye
brandy2pq has stopped viewing your webcam.

me: look if you're going to lie to try and scam people it's a good idea to do at least a little homework
brandy2pq: can u help me
me: why would I help someone that's been lying to me?

Saturday, May 14, 2005

The Texan Doctor goes Native.

I’ve been noticing a change lately. The scam artists are appealing more to altruism and to people’s willingness to do a good deed than they are to greed and lust. I find myself being far more impatient the more I chat with them. This one tells me they were born in 1982 and were about to turn 24, well unless I lost a year somewhere they would be turning 23. They are a doctor from Baylor, imagine to have your medical degree at 22 a regular Doogie Howser! Of course the fact that the had not the vaguest idea where Baylor was, though to be fair I wasn’t sure either, looking later I did realize the med school is in Houston and the main campus is in Waco, but then if you had actually been there you would have corrected me. I thought this one had given up before the scam. But in fact as I was writing this, they came back. It gave me an opportunity to pummel away again, but they did make their pitch, for a new cell phone. It was almost as though they got told by their supervisor to go back and make the pitch.

Imagine the dedication to finish medical school at 22 but instead of practicing medicine you go work in your dad’s store in Nigeria. Loyalty to dad is something you just don’t see anymore.






nelly_tiffany: hi
nelly_tiffany: asl
me: hi
nelly_tiffany: pls
me: ohh I'm old
me: m
me: california
me: you?
nelly_tiffany: can i view ur cam
BUZZ!!!
nelly_tiffany: ooh
nelly_tiffany: u are very cool sirme: thanks where are you from?
nelly_tiffany: from texas
nelly_tiffany: but now in my dad store in nigeria
nelly_tiffany: ok
me: oic
nelly_tiffany: just helping him
me: ok
nelly_tiffany: so as my dad
me: what's that?
nelly_tiffany: i have to comse down here to nigeria help him
me: ok
nelly_tiffany: cause i respect him alot
nelly_tiffany: and he old like you
me: ok
nelly_tiffany: sir i will like to know more about you
nelly_tiffany: si
nelly_tiffany: sir
nelly_tiffany: cause as i see you u must be nice
nelly_tiffany: most of my friends are still in texas
me: what do you want to know?
me: where in Texas?
nelly_tiffany: or may be i will be back in the state next month
me: ok
nelly_tiffany: everything about you sir
nelly_tiffany: houston texas
me: ohh ok
me: what part of houston?
nelly_tiffany: my mum is from navejo nation arizona
me: ic
nelly_tiffany: but my dad is from nigeria
nelly_tiffany: and they gave birth to me in texas
me: ok
nelly_tiffany: in the year 1982
me: oh ok
nelly_tiffany: so now just i will be 24 these year
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: and i will be celebrating my birthday next two weeks
me: ohh ok
me: happy birthday
nelly_tiffany: thax sir
nelly_tiffany: many of my friends are coming to celebrate with me
me: ok
nelly_tiffany: so what do u do in the state
nelly_tiffany: sir
me: partner in a software company
nelly_tiffany: ok nice
nelly_tiffany: i like that
me: ok
nelly_tiffany: but i'm a practise medical doctor
nelly_tiffany: here in nigeria
me: I see
me: little young to be an md aren't you?
nelly_tiffany: my education is very fast
nelly_tiffany: and here in nigeria i wanna build some hospital before coming back to the state
me: where did you go to med school?
nelly_tiffany: Baylor College of Medicine
BUZZ!!!
me: ohh ok
nelly_tiffany: so sir before coming back to the state i will like to help people here
me: I see
me: where is texas is baylor.. I've forgotten
nelly_tiffany: there is a lot of t.b here and i need to help before going back to the state
nelly_tiffany: and my dad said i must do these for his country
me: I see
me: where is Baylor?
nelly_tiffany: Baruch Brody, Ph.D. ... University of Texas Southwestern
me: huh?
nelly_tiffany: yes
me: what's that..
me: you said you went to baylor.. I am just trying to remember where in Texas Baylor is
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: that is nice of you
nelly_tiffany: ok
me: so......
nelly_tiffany: you must be such a caring somebody
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: is that not so
me: I see.. so you're another one making up stories about being from Texas
nelly_tiffany: how do u mean sir
BUZZ!!!
me: you can't tell me where Baylor is
nelly_tiffany: that is where i was telling you sir
me: well anyone that had actually gone would just immediately answer.. oh it's in austin
nelly_tiffany: Baylor Plaza
Houston, TX
nelly_tiffany: ok
me: baylor is in Waco
me: a good 500 miles fro Houston
nelly_tiffany: yes just because i dont understand what you mean
nelly_tiffany: because i think u are talking about where the school is located @
nelly_tiffany: ok
me: so what interstate is waco on?
nelly_tiffany: so do u have kids
nelly_tiffany: ?
BUZZ!!!
me: can't answer that huh?
me: still there?
nelly_tiffany: i'm confuse here
nelly_tiffany: about the cam
BUZZ!!!
me: I'm asking you what is the interstate highway that runs through waco and almost through the baylor campus
nelly_tiffany: yes
nelly_tiffany: just dont understand ur question
me: just I'd think that someone that lived there could actually talk about it
me: it's not hard
nelly_tiffany: right
me: anyone from tecas would know the major highways
nelly_tiffany: yes u are right ok
nelly_tiffany: yes
nelly_tiffany: yes
nelly_tiffany: u are right
nelly_tiffany: and where do u live
nelly_tiffany: ?
me: california
me: but I know texas quite well
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: that is nixe
nelly_tiffany: ok
me: unlike you... I've actually been to Waco
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: nice
nelly_tiffany: have u ever been in new york
me: yes
nelly_tiffany: or navejo nation
nelly_tiffany: arizona
me: well that's not a single spot
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: dad
me: and it's spelled navajo
nelly_tiffany: yes
me: so doc... what's a pulmonary embolism?
nelly_tiffany: i made mistake in my typing
nelly_tiffany: as u did first
BUZZ!!!
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: so i told you that i wil be doing my birthday next week
nelly_tiffany: so are u coming
nelly_tiffany: ?
me: no
nelly_tiffany: ohh
me: what's a pulmonary embolism?
nelly_tiffany: but i will like to inform you
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: right there
me: what?
nelly_tiffany: are u a lawyer
me: no
nelly_tiffany: i think you can come there and meet my dad
me: what's a pulmonary embolism?
nelly_tiffany: are u a lawyer
me: no
me: what's a pulmonary embolism?
nelly_tiffany: cause of all these question
me: come on doc... 1st year med student question
me: I just like to make sure people are who they say they are
nelly_tiffany: ok
me: I'm not from Texas and I'm not a doctor and I know the asnwers
nelly_tiffany: that is nice of you
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: ok
me: so I know you're not from Texas
nelly_tiffany: that is nice
me: and I know you're not a doctor
nelly_tiffany: i know the answer just confuse about the cam
nelly_tiffany: o
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: is that ur son
nelly_tiffany: huh/
nelly_tiffany: ?
me: oh please
me: if you are that flustered god help your patients
me: it's never a good idea to make up stories if you are going to get called on them
nelly_tiffany: ohh
nelly_tiffany: what
nelly_tiffany: are u trying to insult me sir
nelly_tiffany: or what
nelly_tiffany: sir
me: I'm telling the truth
nelly_tiffany: so how old are u sir
nelly_tiffany: yes
me: so what's a pulmonary embolism
me: come on
nelly_tiffany: you are telling the truth
me: answer it doc
me: you're no more a doctor than I'm the president of Nigeria
nelly_tiffany: ok
nelly_tiffany: i will tell you
nelly_tiffany: if that is what u wanna know
me: can we stall any longer
nelly_tiffany: cause i dont like people asking me some question on net
me: having trouble finding it in google?????
nelly_tiffany: A potentially fatal blood clot that travels to the lungs, blocking major arteries. The risk for pulmonary embolism increases after surgery or prolonged bed rest.
me: nice cut and paste...
nelly_tiffany: what did u mean
me: what medication given to women is the leading cause?
me: you have 10 seconds to answer
me: 10
me: 9
nelly_tiffany: by telling all these sir
me: 8
me: 7
me: hurry
me: 6
me: 5
me: 4
me: 3
me: 2
me: 1
me: ohh I'm sorry times up
me: but thanks for playing
nelly_tiffany has stopped viewing your webcam.

me: giving up???
me: don't try to fake things you know nothing about
me: you have any idea how many Africans make up shit?????????
me: it's old
me: tiresome and all to easy to catch



A few minutes later



nelly_tiffany: ok sir
me: hi
nelly_tiffany: so how are u sir
me: I'm okay...
nelly_tiffany: just busy with my dad
me: I see
nelly_tiffany: cause i'm preparing for my birthday
me: ok
me: how old again?
nelly_tiffany: i will be 24 these year
me: but you told me earlier you were born in 1982
nelly_tiffany: yes
me: did I lose a year some place???
nelly_tiffany: no
me: how is you you got that wrong then
nelly_tiffany: i will be 23 sorry
me: I mean I know how old I am and when I was born
me: 23 and already a med school graduate...
me: pretty amazing if you ask me
me: they call you doogie howser???
nelly_tiffany: what
nelly_tiffany: sir just only that i don't lie someone to be questioning me
nelly_tiffany: ok
me: well if you grew up in texas and you were thay much of a prodigy you'd certainly know who doogie howser was
nelly_tiffany: yes
me: I'm having a converation with you
nelly_tiffany: jus dont like much question
nelly_tiffany: yes
nelly_tiffany: ok
me: talking about things you should know if you are what you say you are
nelly_tiffany: sir what will you send to me for my birthday
nelly_tiffany: huh?
nelly_tiffany: i need a cell phone
me: a map of texas
nelly_tiffany: 6260 nokia
nelly_tiffany: new one
nelly_tiffany: ok
me: you must be kidding
me: when did you leave texas?
nelly_tiffany: why
nelly_tiffany: can't iasked something from you as my dad
nelly_tiffany: ?
nelly_tiffany: last two month
me: well you'd know that we don't buy cell phones here
me: if you were really from texas you'd know that the cell phone companies sell phones that are locked and come with a contract
nelly_tiffany: yes
nelly_tiffany: just a single cell phone 4 my birthdaynelly_tiffany: ok
me: how am I going to get one?
nelly_tiffany: i will appreciate if u can do that for me
nelly_tiffany: ok can you send me the one u are using
nelly_tiffany: just to be a suprise
nelly_tiffany: u know 4 my dadme: do I really look that stupid?
nelly_tiffany: what
me: I don't believe you're from Texas
nelly_tiffany: can't u send me just one cell phone
nelly_tiffany: u are not stupid sir
me: I don't believe you're a doctor
nelly_tiffany: no jus asking
me: I think you'
nelly_tiffany: why
nelly_tiffany: are u saying these
nelly_tiffany: is because i asked 4 a surprise gift from u
me: becasue you can't even answer basic questions
me: you don't even know when you were born
nelly_tiffany: that is the why you are blasting me sir
me: toy don't know how old you are
nelly_tiffany: u are like myu dad
me: becasue you've been lying to me since the start
nelly_tiffany: that is why i will have all these respect for you
nelly_tiffany: sir
me: you can't even carry on a basic conversation about where you grew up
me: you can't even make up a vaguely plausible story
nelly_tiffany: what
nelly_tiffany: bye then
nelly_tiffany: is like u are such a person that i dont like ur behaviour
nelly_tiffany: sir
nelly_tiffany: bye
me: of course not
me: I expose what a terrible liar you are
me: you'd be better off just saying I'm African never been to the us know nothing about it but i'd like a cell phone

Friday, May 13, 2005

A couple of Quickies

Okay to be fair my first scammer didn’t scam me. She never got that far. But let’s face it when you’re getting marriage proposals from gorgeous 23 year old Florida grad students after three minutes of conversation and you’re not Donald Trump, unless you’re a complete idiot you should realize something is amiss. I could see where this was going so I cut it short, and they did give up very quickly.. I’m definitely a believer in if it’s too good to be true, it probably is.

Her Profile

My second scammer took a new tact, another new variation. He went to great lengths to tell me how terrible Nigeria and how he was robbed and all he has left on him was his checkbook. Amazing, isn’t it? I thought this was an interesting strategy to bad mouth Nigeria. Never say they aren’t clever to exploit something, even if it is a bad reputation. It might have been a lot more believable if he hadn’t been posting the chat room looking for mobile phones to buy for ten minutes, I suggested he’d be much better off working one scam at a time,




sherry_kate_123: hi
sherry_kate_123: u there
me: hi
sherry_kate_123: asl
sherry_kate_123: 23 f usa
sherry_kate_123: u
me: 50 m california
me: where in the US?
sherry_kate_123: florida
sherry_kate_123: can u see me there on my profile can i see u pls
me: where in florida?
sherry_kate_123 has accepted to view your webcam.

sherry_kate_123: tampa
me: ohh ok
sherry_kate_123: u are cut
sherry_kate_123: have u saw my pics
me: thanks
me: yes...
me: what do you do in Tampa?
sherry_kate_123: am grad student
sherry_kate_123: u
me: ohh ok
me: what school?
me: I'm a partner in a software company
sherry_kate_123: university grad
me: yes which school?
sherry_kate_123: university of tampa
sherry_kate_123: u there
me: oh ok
me: yes
me: so no hot date on a friday night?
sherry_kate_123: have u married
me: no I'm a widower
sherry_kate_123: ohhhhhhh really
me: really
sherry_kate_123: ok
sherry_kate_123: can u have a girl like me as ur home wife
me: well if you were really the girl in the picture
me: and you were really from florida
me: sure
me: but since I don't think you're either,.... no
sherry_kate_123: ohhhh really
sherry_kate_123: i got sad now
me: oh well... you don't write in english like a grad student
me: or even like someone that speaks enlish fluently
sherry_kate_123: ohhhhhhhh what do ya mean
me: sherry_kate_123: have u saw my pics
me: is that proper english?
me: sherry_kate_123: can u have a girl like me as ur home wife
me: that's not a phrase we would use in american english














charlesking80: hi
charlesking80: asl pls
me: you can see my asl on my profile thanks
charlesking80: ok
charlesking80: hi
charlesking80: what is ur name
BUZZ!!!
me: scott
charlesking80: hi
me: hi
charlesking80: i am charles
charlesking80: what do u do
me: partner in a software company
charlesking80: ok thats nioce
charlesking80: i am a charity foundation agent
me: ok
charlesking80: i do travel worldwide
charlesking80: even right now i am not in usa
me: ok
charlesking80: i am in nigeria for the foundation programme
BUZZ!!!
me: ok
charlesking80: hjave u been to nigeria]
me: up in the middle of the night?
me: no never have
charlesking80: nigertia is abad place
me: so I've heard
charlesking80: even some gang of robberes attacked me and stole all my money
me: sorry to hear that
charlesking80: all i have with me in nigeria is my cash book
charlesking80: and i need to get back to user
me: I see...
charlesking80: because i now hate nigeria
charlesking80: and i dot no cash i only got my check book
me: ok
charlesking80: can u help mme
me: no contact the embassy,.. they will get in touch with your bank and get you some money
charlesking80: i have tried that
me: well they will do it... I know they will
charlesking80: u know nigeria is a bad country thry cant even ghelp me
charlesking80: can unhelp me
me: as soon as you're in the embassy you're dealing with the US
charlesking80: i wish u are here and u will knowmhow bad nigeria is
me: you really should only work one scam at a time....
charlesking80: the only help u can render for me mis this
charlesking80: i will send a 3000$ check to you and you will help me cash the mnoney and then u will send it to me through westerrn union
charlesking80: i really wantn to mleave nigeria
charlesking80: pls
charlesking80: help me
me: you were looking for cell phones in the chat room
charlesking80: and some percentage will be urs 4rm the money
me: so I guess you think I'm really fucking stupid?
charlesking80: no
charlesking80: please help me
charlesking80: i really need ur help
me: well you sound just like all the nigerian scammers
me: call the charity you work for
charlesking80: i mtold u i am nigeria
charlesking80: they ndidnt even help me
charlesking80: pls
me: well I assume you can e-mail then
me: call the credit card company... get your card replaced... call british air in london order an airline ticket
charlesking80: so u dont trust me
me: you're out
me: of course I don't trust you
charlesking80: i ahve tried all amy best please
me: well look I travel for a living.. I travel all over the world
me: I know all of those things will work
me: only a scam artist contacts a complete stranger
BUZZ!!!
me: so where are you from

Thursday, May 12, 2005

The Charity Hitman

It's been a slow few days in the scam world, not so much because there have been fewer scam artists but because they have all been so boring and predictable, so it was nice to get something different even if it was a threat! This one was perhaps the worst I’ve had at telling stories yet! They couldn’t get straight where they were from, they were from Houston then mid east London, you know Manchester. I think her usual story was they were from California based on the name they were using but when they heard that's where I was from they decided to ad lib. Then they sent me a picture of a pretty blonde girl that had been forwarded 5 or 6 times. They did at least take the initiative to look up the names of the airports in Houston when I asked them which is more than most of them will do. They got upset with me when I told them how bad they were and I think they thought I was from Nigeria for a while because I told them I could fake being from Nigeria better than they were doing just now. The conversation ended with them saying they knew my IP address and that they were going to get me. You know just your typical Christian charity aid worker kind of threat.

cutecalbaby: hello
me: hi
cutecalbaby: i am back
cutecalbaby: are u there?
me: ok
cutecalbaby: so what are u doing?
me: not much really
cutecalbaby: ok
cutecalbaby: so what region are u?
me: california
cutecalbaby: ok
cutecalbaby: are u a christain
me: not much of anything
cutecalbaby: ok
cutecalbaby: so what do u like doing
me: all sorts of things
cutecalbaby: pls can u on ur cam
me: hold on 1 minute
cutecalbaby: like what?
cutecalbaby: ok
cutecalbaby: are u there?
cutecalbaby: so how is d weather in usa
me: it's fine
cutecalbaby: ok
cutecalbaby: so scott what ur best sport and foods?
me: I don't really play sports
me: I like all sorts of food and cook all sorts of things
cutecalbaby: why?
cutecalbaby: but i love sport
me: I'm old and fat
cutecalbaby: so u can cook
me: yes
cutecalbaby: ok
cutecalbaby: it now bad
me: what?
cutecalbaby: fatmen are attime nice
me: ok
cutecalbaby: it not bad
me: ok
cutecalbaby: so what ur email box again
me: me@yahoo.com
cutecalbaby: i have sent it
me: yes.. you're cute... where are you from?
cutecalbaby: usa
cutecalbaby: i told u
me: where specifically?
cutecalbaby: but i am in africa
cutecalbaby: i work in a chrity cares company na
me: where did you grow up?
cutecalbaby: in usa
me: why so vague?
cutecalbaby: i don't understand
me: well the usa is a big place
me: what town?
me: what state?
cutecalbaby: in houston
cutecalbaby: texas
me: ohh ok
me: I have a client in grapevine.. you know it?
cutecalbaby: so u wnat to be my friend?
me: I'm happy to chat
cutecalbaby: client in grapevine?
me: yes..
cutecalbaby: so what do u want in a woman
me: someone on the same continent with me for starters
cutecalbaby: i was born in usa but my dad dead when i was just 1 years old and my mum took me and my brother and sis to uk that in london we live there.before she went to africa becos she is from there and i told her that i want to go back to usa
cutecalbaby: so i went back in d ages of 17
cutecalbaby: so i meet my husband in d years of 24
me: I see...
cutecalbaby: i gave birth in d ages of 27
me: well you sure don't write like you grew up in Texas
cutecalbaby: yes
cutecalbaby: i grew up in uk
me: ohh ok
me: where in the uk?
cutecalbaby: but i came back when i was 17
me: I see
cutecalbaby: london,mideast
cutecalbaby: ok
me: mideast?
me: the girl in the pic looks only about 20
cutecalbaby: what ages did i tell u that i am?
me: you just said you had a baby at 27
cutecalbaby: i work in uk in a chrity care company
me: having trouble keeping your story straight?
cutecalbaby: i ma 30
me: I see
cutecalbaby: and that me in d pic
me: ok
cutecalbaby: so that all my life
me: ok
me: so what's mideast london?
cutecalbaby: so scott if i asked 4 ur help becos i want to go back to usa but i have no money here,
cutecalbaby: becos i gave my family down here all i got an di also open astores 4 my home
cutecalbaby: so will u help me?
me: I'd think you were a pretty lousy scam artist who can't even create a vaguely believable story
cutecalbaby: no
cutecalbaby: pls wait
me: well let's talk about London for a while... or Houston.. I have a feeling I know more about them than you do
cutecalbaby: i just want to buy some item there so that i could sell here.
cutecalbaby: so will u help me?
me: no
me: you're not from houston
me: you
me: re not from London
cutecalbaby: i am from
cutecalbaby: i will not lie to u
me: you're not the girl in the picture
me: okay... so answer a few questions
cutecalbaby: i am i will not lie
cutecalbaby: what?
cutecalbaby: what if i get it will u help me?

(really long pause, like 5 minutes here)

me: what are the names of the 2 airports in houston?
me: easy question if you lived there until you were 17
me: I'm sorry... time's up... but thanks for playing
cutecalbaby: hobby airport
me: little slow there
cutecalbaby: george bush
me: what's the other one?
cutecalbaby: airport
me: see now I know you never lived there
me: do you know why?
cutecalbaby: why?
me: well 13 years ago george bush had a different name
me: which is what you would have used
cutecalbaby: i know
me: and the name was?
cutecalbaby: i don't know about d old name
cutecalbaby: that d one i knew
me: that's funny... I would have thought you'd remember becasue it's the airport you would have left from to go to the UK
me: such a big event in your life and you don't remember the name of the airport
cutecalbaby: d name of d airport i took to uk i can't remember taht becos i was very little
me: you just told me you were 17 when you left Houston
me: geez I remember your story better than you do
cutecalbaby: no i told u that i was just one and i came back just7u0o-p;'p[
cutecalbaby: '17
me: whatever...
me: so you were an adult in london thne right?
me: we can talk london if you want... I actually know a lot more about london than I do Houston
cutecalbaby: YEA
me: so where is mideast london?
me: the west end I know
me: the east end
me: the city
cutecalbaby: manchester
me: but never the mideast
me: huh?
cutecalbaby: hmm
cutecalbaby: yeah
me: I thought you told me london?
cutecalbaby: yes
me: you really really don't have a clue
cutecalbaby: i have in abundance
me: I've talked with a lot of African scammers and most are bad... but you are absolutely the worst
me: let me give you a hint.... don't make up where you're from if you know nothing about it
cutecalbaby: why? u say that
me: it's true
me: you know nothing about texas
me: you know nothying about the uk
cutecalbaby: i told u all about usa nd uk
cutecalbaby: i know
me: oh shit I could fake being from lagos better than you've done
cutecalbaby: so u be naija
me: naija?
cutecalbaby: yeah
me: don't know what that is
cutecalbaby: ok
cutecalbaby: so u being nto lagos?
me: no never have... that's why I wouldn't try to fake it
cutecalbaby: ur fafa dey mad
cutecalbaby: so what are u saying
me: see that's good old African speak
cutecalbaby: but how do u know lagos?
me: ohh it was just a guess
cutecalbaby: u re a lier
me: I'm a liar?
cutecalbaby: yeah
cutecalbaby: becos u are from nigeria and i know u from somewhere
cutecalbaby: no wonder ur cam did not on?
me: I see.. you get caught at being a completely incompetant scammer and I'm a liar?
me: I think that's you're problem
cutecalbaby has accepted to view your webcam.

cutecalbaby: u re a scammer

me: what have I asked for?
cutecalbaby: you're problem
ur cam is not openin
me: just a hint dear manchester is about 600 miles from london and no one from manchester would ever say london
me: well look at my profile
me: there is a picture
me: and unlike you
me: it really is my picture
cutecalbaby: that cool
cutecalbaby: so what are u sayin will u help me?
cutecalbaby: so what do u wnt me to say?
me: why would I help someone that's such and obvious fraud???
cutecalbaby: but what if what i say is ....
me: you are what?
cutecalbaby: a female and i am in africa now
cutecalbaby: ok call me phone number now
me: yes and my guess is you've been there all your life
cutecalbaby: and u will know if i am a lier
me: no sorry I don't call africa
cutecalbaby: ok
me: well I'd recognize a manchester or a houston accent in an instant
cutecalbaby: give me ur own phone number?
me: no if you have a mic I'll listen to you
me: I'd also recognize an African accent
cutecalbaby: yeah i know
cutecalbaby: ok 4 u to beleive me y dont u call me now
me: why should I pay money?
me: if you had a vaguely coherent story maybe
cutecalbaby: +2348025591385
me: but it's awful...
me: I mean you're the worst I've ever chatted with...
me: are you new?
me: see most only make up one story...
cutecalbaby: hey if u dont wanna do deal wit me den furk off
cutecalbaby: my feind
me: but making up 2 is really dumb you just double your chances of getting caught
cutecalbaby: do u know what i can do to u?
cutecalbaby: do u know that i have ur IP ADDRESS KNOW
me: wow.. that really sounds like something a charity worker would say
me: great..
me: I'll sign off and back on and poof differnt ip
cutecalbaby: yeah
cutecalbaby: ok
cutecalbaby: but i will get u?
me: so charity workers usually track ip addresses?
me: and threaten people?
me: or just scam artists?
me: hmmm?

Monday, May 09, 2005

Cheryl Goes Non-linear

Well after yesterday’s unrepentant deny everything scammer, the one this morning makes everything worthwhile. “She” had been working me for well over a week. She used the hit and run approach to make it seem as we were building a relationship when in fact it’s a way to avoid having to share too much information. So when I got this one to go completely off the wall it was gratifying. Nice to give them just a little touch of the feeling of being cheated that their victims feel all too often I’m afraid.

It was the usual MO, great looking mixed race woman, has a visa, really wants to be with me, and just needs my help with the airline ticket. I also had several people send me the same picture and I’m pretty sure the woman in it is Hawaiian not African. This is of course a really easy scam to scope out, just offer to give them exactly what they are asking for but in a different form. When she asked for help with the airline ticket, I agreed but in the form of a free ticket, all I needed was a scan of her passport and her visa and I’d process the ticket and send it off to her. Of course when you do that they’re stuck, you now seem like a cooperative mark, but you’re asking for something they can’t give you and you are offering something they can’t use.

This one had invested a lot of time with me, I didn’t keep all the conversations but it lasted over a week. They were so sure I was going to come through that I think they had already spent the money. When I told them from the start I knew they weren’t real they went ballistic. There was a great segue from I’m a Christian that can’t lie to a stream of profanity that would make a longshoreman blush.

Her Profile


cheryl_us1975: Hello
me: hi
cheryl_us1975: how r u ?
me: I'm okay
cheryl_us1975: asl
me: ohh I'm old
me: m
me: california
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: age
cheryl_us1975: am30/f/nig
BUZZ!!!
BUZZ!!!
me: 50
cheryl_us1975: care to cht wit me ?
BUZZ!!!
me: sure hold on
cheryl_us1975: k
cheryl_us1975: can i add you to my buddy list ?/
me: sure
cheryl_us1975: wat's your name ??
me: Scott
cheryl_us1975: so tell me abt yourself
me: sorry was on the phone
me: I'm done now
me: I'm 50
cheryl_us1975: k
me: a widower... partner in a software company
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: is that wat u do?
me: a widower... partner in a software company
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: can i see you on cam plz
me: yes 1 min let me use the bathroom
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: Put on your camb4 u leave
BUZZ!!!
me: sorry got booted
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: puton your cam nowplz
cheryl_us1975: k
cheryl_us1975: Scott,i can seeyou now
cheryl_us1975: U really look good
me: thanks
cheryl_us1975: wow
cheryl_us1975: u are enjoying
cheryl_us1975: i thinkso
me: yes
me: you have a cam?
cheryl_us1975: no
cheryl_us1975: sorry
me: ohh ok
cheryl_us1975: are u married Scott ?
me: no a widower... remember?
cheryl_us1975: ohhh yea
cheryl_us1975: ido
me: ok
cheryl_us1975: Scott,you must be very caring
me: some people think so... some don't you know how it is
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: is that your home or office??
BUZZ!!!
me: home office
cheryl_us1975: lol
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: so tell me abt yourself plz
me: what do you want to know?
cheryl_us1975: Have you ever beenin love b4 ?
cheryl_us1975: seems you are chatting wit so many pple right ??
me: no never been in West Africa.... just in East Africa
me: no just you I'm doing a little work
cheryl_us1975: where in east africa ??
BUZZ!!!
me: Kenya
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: wat have you gone to do at Kenya ?
me: safari
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: Scott,do u need anyone ,i mean do you need anylady ?
cheryl_us1975: cos am single
cheryl_us1975: and looking for the right guy
me: well you're a bit far away for that to be practical
cheryl_us1975: Yea i know
cheryl_us1975: Steve,i also want to come to usa
me: who is Steve?
cheryl_us1975: I want to type Scott
cheryl_us1975: I also have a friend there in usa who is Steve
me: oic. ok
cheryl_us1975: so wat do you do for fun?
BUZZ!!!
me: I like to cook..... dine out travel nature explore all sorts of things....
cheryl_us1975: ok
me: busy with Steve?
cheryl_us1975: Scott,steve is not online
cheryl_us1975: ok ??
me: ohh okay.. you're slow to respond
cheryl_us1975: am chatting wit u alone
cheryl_us1975: amnot fast in typing
me: ohh ok
cheryl_us1975: who are u chatting wit
me: no one I'm writing something
me: I keep a diary
cheryl_us1975: ok
me: ho knows maybe I'll mention you
cheryl_us1975: wat do u mean?
me: nothing never mind
cheryl_us1975: ok
me: so what do you like to do?
cheryl_us1975: well,anything
cheryl_us1975: Have you ever been in love before ?
cheryl_us1975: Tell me abt your love life
me: well I was married...
me: I don't have a love life these days
cheryl_us1975: ok
me: ok
cheryl_us1975: u on phone ?
me: no
me: waiting for you
cheryl_us1975: really ?
me: really
cheryl_us1975: Scott,i care to know u better
me: ok
cheryl_us1975: Let me see how your home office look like
me: it all looks like what you see behind me
cheryl_us1975: let me see more plz
me: that's okay I don't feel like fooling with the cam right now
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: Scott,u have any kids?
me: no kids
cheryl_us1975: ok
me: still there?
cheryl_us1975: am here
cheryl_us1975: amn waiting for yotto talk
me: ahh I was waiting for you
cheryl_us1975 has stopped viewing your webcam.

cheryl_us1975: huh
me: I was waiting for you to say something
cheryl_us1975: huh
me: huh?
cheryl_us1975: brb
me: ok
cheryl_us1975: rebooted my pcx
cheryl_us1975: pc
me: ok
cheryl_us1975: am back Scott
me: ok
me: so where were we?
cheryl_us1975: wat do u mean ?
me: what were we talking about before you rebooted?
BUZZ!!!
cheryl_us1975: I can't remember
cheryl_us1975: can you ?
me: no
me: that's why I asked
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: Well Scott,it's pretty late here
cheryl_us1975: I want to to to bed now
me: okay well sleep well
cheryl_us1975: ty
cheryl_us1975: bye
cheryl_us1975: take care
me: bye
me:

A Couple of Days Later
My Computer froze so I had her run her pitch by me again
cheryl_us1975: Hello Scott
me: hi
cheryl_us1975: How are you doing today ?
me: I'm okay...you?
cheryl_us1975: am good
cheryl_us1975: so wat are u doing ?
me: just having coffee
cheryl_us1975: little busy again ??..............LOL
me: well yesterday my compter crashed
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: Am sure,you get some coffee for me too .............lol
me:
cheryl_us1975:
cheryl_us1975: good
cheryl_us1975: so wat are you up to nw ?
me: nothnig really
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: So did you understand wat i was trying to tell you the last time we chatted ????/
me: I didn't see much of it.... tell me again
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: Well,i wa trying to tell you that i need your help financially .I got a usa visa here .But Scott,i need to get to usa before this visa Expires .
cheryl_us1975: All i need from you is just a financially help
me: so when did you get the visa?
cheryl_us1975: I need to get a Plane Ticket here so that i can buy a plane ticket to over there
cheryl_us1975: It's been a long time i got my visa
me: ohh okay...
cheryl_us1975: It's a Travelling Agent that help me get the visa
me: well visas are good as long as your passport is good..
cheryl_us1975: But i got some little amount for Plane Ticket,But it's not complete
me: once you get them they don't expire
cheryl_us1975: Yea
cheryl_us1975: Really ??
me: really
cheryl_us1975: But a friend of mine told me it expires
me: plus your travel agent can't do anything
me: well look at the visa!
cheryl_us1975: Scott,now i want to get a plane ticket so that i can come over there
me: well tell you what... send the a scan of the inside of your passport and of the page with the US visa and I'll send you a ticket
cheryl_us1975: The Plane Ticket is just $1500,But Scott i got just $1000 .So i need $500 to add to it to make it complete
me: well I'll send you a ticket.. I can get it free from the airlines because I fly so much
me: that way you can keep the thousand for spending money
cheryl_us1975: really ??
me: sure
cheryl_us1975: ty
me: but I need the scans
cheryl_us1975: scans of wat ?
me: now this ticket can't be sold or changed
me: I just told you
me: of your passport and visa
cheryl_us1975: ol
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: ok
me: the airline needs them to issue the ticket
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: I will send it to you
cheryl_us1975: ty Scott
me: ok
cheryl_us1975: I dont have where to live over there ??
cheryl_us1975: Can i come and live with ya ?
me: I see... well I only have a small apartment
cheryl_us1975: Can't the small apartment contain both of us ??
me: well there is only 1 bedroom
cheryl_us1975: really ?
me: really the other bedroom is my office
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: So wat are u sayin ?
cheryl_us1975: can't i live wit ya ?
me: well I guess it depends on what you want
me: I have a big bed LOL
cheryl_us1975: lol
cheryl_us1975: that's good
cheryl_us1975: put on your cam plz
BUZZ!!!
cheryl_us1975: brb Scott
me: ok

The next day


cheryl_us1975: Hello Scott
me: hi
cheryl_us1975: How are you doing ?
me: I'm okay... you?
cheryl_us1975: am good
cheryl_us1975: Happy sunday
me: thanks
cheryl_us1975: wat are U doing ?
BUZZ!!!
me: nothing much really
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: brb


The Final answer

cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: u there ?
me: yes
cheryl_us1975: how are u doing ?
BUZZ!!!
me: I'm okay.... you?
cheryl_us1975: seems you are lil busy ??
cheryl_us1975: right ?
cheryl_us1975: put in your cam
BUZZ!!!
me: not really just reading
cheryl_us1975: ok
cheryl_us1975: Dear,My Travelling Agent told me that ,he can't allow me to send you the scan visa and passport for security purposes
me: I just need a scan of it not the original
cheryl_us1975: Yea i told my Travelling Agent,he said for security purposes .that he can't send it to you
me: what the fuck does your travel agent have to do with it?
cheryl_us1975: That you should help me with the reamaining amount i need for my plane ticket
me: yeah of course
cheryl_us1975: He is the one processing my Travelling Document
me: travel agents don't get visas
cheryl_us1975: Yea i know
me: not for the US anyway
me: well if I can't see it I don't send anything
cheryl_us1975: Dear,why that ?
cheryl_us1975: Dear,i just need $500 to make my plane ticket complete
me: becasue I need to see you're for real
me: right now I don't believe you have a visa
cheryl_us1975: Dear i do
cheryl_us1975: I cant' lie to you
me: well people do all the time
cheryl_us1975: am real Christian
me: oh
cheryl_us1975: how do u mean by that ?
me: lie
me: god knows Christians never lie
cheryl_us1975: Yea
cheryl_us1975: am a christian and i dont lie
cheryl_us1975: I beleive in God
cheryl_us1975: I went to church Yesterday
me: well unless they are liars then they might lie about being christians
me: in my experience those are the worst kind of people
cheryl_us1975: Am going to chucrh today again Scoot
me: church on sunday fuck you over on monday
cheryl_us1975: Yea
cheryl_us1975: Dear,all i want you to do is just to beleive me .Plz try and trust me
cheryl_us1975: I dont lie
cheryl_us1975: I dislike pple telling that am lieing
me: well I don't send cash
cheryl_us1975: I dont Dear
me: the offer I made was what I was willing to do
me: the reason people wouldn't be willing to send it.. is because it doesn't exist
cheryl_us1975: wat are you drinking ??
cheryl_us1975: lol
cheryl_us1975: Coffee ?
me: you think I'm a fool?
me: yes
cheryl_us1975: how do u mean ?
cheryl_us1975: i know u are not a fool
me: that I'd send you $500 just on the basis of a picture
me: and that you're the only one in Africa with this story
cheryl_us1975: Dear,i can send you my Non-immigration Visa form
cheryl_us1975: am sure,with that u can still help me
me: what the fuck use it that?
me: I can download one of them off the web
me: you really must think I'm stupid?
me: wait let me look in the mirror... do I have dumb shit written on my forehead???
cheryl_us1975: Scott,wat are u talking abt
cheryl_us1975: if you are not ready to help me ,Let me know
cheryl_us1975: ok ?
me: do you have any idea how many times I've heard the same story
me: well I offered to help
cheryl_us1975: How many times Dear ?
me: but you don't want it
me: at least 100
cheryl_us1975: I do
me: well send the passport and visa scan
cheryl_us1975: You want to send $100 ??
me: no
me: so we're on to the bargain basement see what I can get ppart of the scam now??
me: I've known from the start there is no visa
me: probably no passport
cheryl_us1975: Hey,let me know if u are sending me the money ro not ??
BUZZ!!!
me: you're not the woman in the picture
cheryl_us1975: ok ty bye
me: you're proably not even a woman
cheryl_us1975: piss off
me: how fucking stupid do you think people are???
cheryl_us1975: fuck off scotttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
cheryl_us1975: U are a bastard
me: getting caught is a bitch huh???
cheryl_us1975: iya eeeeeeeee
cheryl_us1975: baba eeeeeee
cheryl_us1975: oloshi
cheryl_us1975: u go die
cheryl_us1975: u go die tommorrow
me: don't ya hate it when you get scammed???
cheryl_us1975: oloshi
cheryl_us1975: i dont
me: now you know how your victims feel
cheryl_us1975: i like it
me: right
cheryl_us1975: how ?
me: that's why you're swearing at me
me: just like you do now
cheryl_us1975: u bi magaaaaaaaa
cheryl_us1975: u be useless maga
me: oh this is great
me: you've made my day!
cheryl_us1975: i no say oneday person go chop your money
cheryl_us1975: yea
cheryl_us1975: bastard
me: why not try an honest line of work
cheryl_us1975: BASTARD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cheryl_us1975: FUCK OFF
cheryl_us1975: USELESS MAN
me: wow.. struck a nerve here...
cheryl_us1975: I DONT THINK YOU HAVE UP TO $500 IN YOUR ACCOUNT
BUZZ!!!
me: why becasue i'm smarter than you are??
cheryl_us1975:
me: why the fuck would I give it you you???
cheryl_us1975: LOL
me: I could scam better than you can
cheryl_us1975: BASTARD
cheryl_us1975: FUCK OFF
cheryl_us1975: USELESS MAN
me: the picture is way over the top
me: you have to be really dumb to believe it'
me: s really you
cheryl_us1975: I WILL CALL THE FBI TO COME AND ARREST YOU
me: see it's a buyers marekt out there is scams
me: oh that's rich
cheryl_us1975: U FOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
me: you scam me and the FBI is coming to arrest me???
cheryl_us1975: YEA
cheryl_us1975: U ARE A SCAM TOO
cheryl_us1975: I KNOW U
me: yup I am
cheryl_us1975: U HAVE SCAM MY DAD BEFORE
cheryl_us1975: I HAVE YOUR FULL DETAILS WITH ME
cheryl_us1975: I WILL GIVE IT TO THE FBI
cheryl_us1975: YOU WILL BE ARRESTED SOON
cheryl_us1975: OK /?
cheryl_us1975: JUST BE PREPARED
me: I have a web site where I publish people who try to scam me
me: I can't wait
me: have a nice day..
me: try getting an honest job

Sunday, May 08, 2005

Hey I'm entitled!

This one got ugly. I guess I really wasn’t in the mood today. The down side of starting this blog is I suddenly feel the need to talk with people I clearly know are scamming me. They have no interest in me as a person, in fact as this conversation went on, it was clear that they had absolute distain for me. They think that being nice is a weakness and wanting to do a good deed is a vulnerability to be exploited. This one in not terribly humorous aside from the silly address I gave her. The phone number, before you call it is to the San Mateo California police department.

I'm also getting the notion that they are trying to use the addresses for phishing. She came back and said she couldn't verify the address with the USPS site, but it was clear from our conversation she couldn't tell a zip code from an area code as she gave me a totally wrong zip code for Santa Barbara.

The other thing that really bothered me about this dialog was the sense of entitlement this person had and the rationalization that what they were doing was okay. It makes me sad for the future of Africa to think that so many people there feel that it’s alright to steal. I only wish that an equal amount of energy was put into honest persuits.

Her Profile

tracy_isioma: hello
me: hi
tracy_isioma: asl
me: ohh I'm ols
me: m
me: california... there is a pic on my profile
tracy_isioma: cool
tracy_isioma: how was ur day?
me: it was fine.... quiet
tracy_isioma: cool
tracy_isioma: are you married
me: no I'm a widower
tracy_isioma: 24 f cali
tracy_isioma: oooo sory
me: I'm 50
me: well it was a long time ago now
tracy_isioma: what do you do for a liveing
tracy_isioma: ok
me: I'm a partner in a software company
tracy_isioma: cool
tracy_isioma: i am business
tracy_isioma: lady
me: ohh ok
me: what sort of business?
tracy_isioma: i sale clothers
me: I see... so are you really in tracy?
tracy_isioma: i travel from one country to anthoer
me: I see
tracy_isioma: cool
BUZZ!!!
me: ?
tracy_isioma: are you at home?
me: yes
tracy_isioma: u gat cam?
me: yes
tracy_isioma: can i see u on cam?
me: yeah 1 minute let me check something in the kitchen
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: are you back
tracy_isioma: are you there
BUZZ!!!
me: hi sorry
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: u need some one to help you
me: no not really
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: bcuz u are too old to cooke
me: ?
tracy_isioma: u ook cool
me: thanks
tracy_isioma: are at home alone
me: yes
tracy_isioma: cool
tracy_isioma: u gat kids
me: no kids
tracy_isioma: cool
me: ok
tracy_isioma: what like doing alone?
me: it is what it is.... better alone than with the wrong person
tracy_isioma: cool
tracy_isioma: how was ur work?
me: well didn't work today... it's sunday
tracy_isioma: yes
tracy_isioma: where do go on sundays
me: didn't go anywhere today
tracy_isioma: cool
tracy_isioma: do you love ur wife
me: it's aort of irrelevant
tracy_isioma: i love that
me: why?
tracy_isioma: can you do me a favor
me: I mean she's been dead for 11 years
me: what sort of favor?
tracy_isioma: i gat a friend he bout clothers from
me: i see
tracy_isioma: with some money
me: ok
tracy_isioma: he is from usa
tracy_isioma: and he pay me with some money order
me: ahh well you should know I can't do anything with those
tracy_isioma: i no
me: US banks won't take 3rd party any more
tracy_isioma: pls can you help cach some money order?
me: but if yuor friend sent you a money order it would have had to been made payable to you
tracy_isioma: yes
tracy_isioma: i have chage it
me: then I can't cash it... you should know that...
tracy_isioma: it is in the bank now
me: what?
tracy_isioma: i have the new ones
tracy_isioma: can pls help cach them
me: so why didn't you just get cash?
tracy_isioma: i gat no cach
tracy_isioma: here
me: well how did you get new money orders???
tracy_isioma: it only thin i gat
tracy_isioma: i gat them from a friends
me: hon... that does'nt even sound vaguely plausable
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: can you help me
me: I mean jeez... do I look that fucking stupid?
me: do I have the word sucker written across my forehead or something???
tracy_isioma: what u mean?
tracy_isioma: can you pls help me?
me: I'll be you're in Africa right?
tracy_isioma: yes
me: but you're from tracy?
tracy_isioma: tracy is my name
tracy_isioma: i am from cali
me: where in Csli?
me: Cali?
tracy_isioma: california
tracy_isioma: in usa
tracy_isioma: i do business
me: I know
me: I fucvking live in california
me: what town?
tracy_isioma: satar bararra
me: would be nice if you could spell it
me: what freeway runs through santa barbara?
tracy_isioma: can ytou pls help cach it now
tracy_isioma: i will give you %10
me: tell me about santa barbara and maybe I can help
tracy_isioma: it is nice place people stay
me: ohh please... you're funny
tracy_isioma: soory
me: so what area code for santa barbara?
me: you're as much from santa barbara as I'm from Lagos
tracy_isioma: 95050 here is it
me: I can't tell you how stupid it is to pretend to be from someplace you know nothing about
me: that's a zip code dumb fuck
me: and it's not for santa barbara
tracy_isioma: where/
tracy_isioma: are from usa?
me: well the number is too high for santa barbara
tracy_isioma: or nigeria
me: yes
me: I really am from California
me: any you are really bad at lying about california
tracy_isioma: bye
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma has stopped viewing your webcam.

me: it's really stupid
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: can you help cach a check?
me: you get caught in a heart beat
me: right that check would bounce higher that a man united free kick off the cross bar
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: ur address
me: actually there probably really isn't a check..... what you're hoping is I'll be really stupid and just send you money
tracy_isioma: so i can send it to you
BUZZ!!!
me: ready?
tracy_isioma: yes
me: scott urkidin
me: 142 el camino de loco
me: san cabeza, CA 94069
tracy_isioma: u state?
me: thought you were from santa barbara?
me: then you'd know that CA is the abbreviation for California
tracy_isioma: yah
tracy_isioma: ur zipcode
me: can't you read?
tracy_isioma: ur city
tracy_isioma: ?
BUZZ!!!
me: me: san cabeza, CA 94069
tracy_isioma: arenyou there
tracy_isioma: ur city?
BUZZ!!!
me: san cabeza,
me: san cabeza,
me: san cabeza,
me: san cabeza,
me: san cabeza,
tracy_isioma: ur full name?
me: me: scott urkidin
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: ur phone number
BUZZ!!!
me: (650) 522-7700
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: u will help me cach the ok
me: soon as I get it and it clears
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: thx
tracy_isioma: i will love to meet you
me: ok... well when you come to san cabeza
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: ok
tracy_isioma: when you gat the money take it to the bank ok
me: absolutely
tracy_isioma: thx
tracy_isioma: brb
tracy_isioma: u add me
tracy_isioma: ok
me: ok
tracy_isioma : i back
tracy_isioma : what are cooking ?
me: carnitas
tracy_isioma : cool
tracy_isioma : i love to test it
me: ok
me: being from santa barbara you know what they are right?
tracy_isioma : i agt check it
tracy_isioma : ok
tracy_isioma : i agt check it
tracy_isioma : ok
tracy_isioma : hello
tracy_isioma : hello
me: hi
tracy_isioma : are you still there?
me: yes
tracy_isioma : i have order the chack
me: ok
tracy_isioma : but i try the address they said it incorrect
me: really?
me: where did you try it?
tracy_isioma : yes
tracy_isioma : may be you give it again
me: tell me where you tried it?
tracy_isioma : i have try it in usps
me: ohh well what do you think might be wrong?
tracy_isioma : usps
me: I see.. so what are you doing there?
tracy_isioma : nop
tracy_isioma : i jusut try to coform
me: I see so you don't trust me
BUZZ!!!
tracy_isioma : i trust
me: so why did you go to the usps site to look it up?
tracy_isioma : i like to no if there is any mistake there
me: well there was a mistake actually
tracy_isioma : how?
tracy_isioma : can i no?
me: you were gullible enough to think I really believe you and would give you a real address
tracy_isioma : u not understand me
tracy_isioma : hun
me: ohh I understand completely...
me: you're not really from santa barbara
tracy_isioma : i am from there
tracy_isioma : ever since i lose my mum
me: you don't even knoe the santa barbara area code
tracy_isioma : they toke me away from there
me: you don't know the difference between an area code and a zip code
tracy_isioma : and take me to my father land
tracy_isioma : dont blame me
me: so don't blame you for trying to scam me out of money????
tracy_isioma : i am not hun
me: right... you know how often I hear this?
tracy_isioma : i am the one sending you money
tracy_isioma : ok
me: 10-15x a week
tracy_isioma : what?
me: always the same... a pretty "woman" needs help cashing a check from the US
me: couldn't find where are are from on a map if their life depended on it
me: please how fucking stupid do you think I am???
tracy_isioma : nop
me: so how often do you actually con someone?????
tracy_isioma : hun
tracy_isioma : what?
me: come on I'm on to you.. have been since the start...
me: your money order story makes no sense at all
tracy_isioma : i just asking you now
tracy_isioma : ok
me: asking what?
tracy_isioma : so i can feed my family
me: me to be an idiot
tracy_isioma : nop
me: wait I thought you were single
tracy_isioma : just help my selp
me: and your mom was dead what family???
tracy_isioma : yes
me: come on your story has more holes than swiss cheese
tracy_isioma : i gat youngers ones
me: ohh right....
tracy_isioma : they go to school
tracy_isioma : ok
me: ohh okay scam school?
me: is it a family business??
tracy_isioma : no
tracy_isioma : are not helping me
tracy_isioma : why afre talking like this
me: what help you to steal money from you?
me: me
me: becasue you're a scam artist
tracy_isioma : i dont like it hun
me: this is a lame old african scam
tracy_isioma : why is you
tracy_isioma : talking like this
tracy_isioma : ok
tracy_isioma : is that ur address
tracy_isioma : or not
me: becasue it's a scam... your money order story doesn't even vaguely make sense
BUZZ!!!
tracy_isioma : that is not scam
tracy_isioma : ok
me: someone sends you a money order,,,, you turn the money order into another money order to send to you so I can send you cash?
me: do you have any idea how lame that is?
me: how fucking stupid do you think I am???
tracy_isioma : i just need your help
tracy_isioma : nop
me: I can't believe you are insulting my intelligence licke this
tracy_isioma : i have use that for my business ok
tracy_isioma : i have my own
BUZZ!!!
tracy_isioma : ok
me: yes but your story makes no sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tracy_isioma : why you talking like this hun
me: if you can't turn one money orser into another one you could have just cashed the fucking thing
tracy_isioma : why cant we talk better
me: because you're a thief
tracy_isioma : why
me: I've told you
tracy_isioma : tyou keep on telling me this
me: that money order is a fraud
tracy_isioma : u are a good man
tracy_isioma : then why are you talking like this
me: becasue I get sick and tired of all you scam artists
tracy_isioma : my GOD see you
me: me?
tracy_isioma : bye
tracy_isioma : yes
me: I'm not the one trying to steal from trusting people
tracy_isioma : am i
me: sure you are
tracy_isioma : what?
me: I expose african scam artists all the time
tracy_isioma : what?
me: there is no way on earth that moeny order is good
tracy_isioma : u talk like a child
me: I maintain a web site about scam artists
me: I catch people in lies
me: like I caught you
tracy_isioma : u mad
tracy_isioma : ok
me: you aren't from santa barbara
tracy_isioma : stipid
tracy_isioma : bye
me: you don't even know where it is
tracy_isioma : bo and sleep with ur dead wife
tracy_isioma : ok
me: ooooh aren't you a nasty one
me: so are you a guy too?
me: most of you are
tracy_isioma : i amnot ok
me: you use women's pics becsaue it works better
tracy_isioma : u can see my pic
tracy_isioma : there
tracy_isioma : i gat cam here
me: ohh well that's a change
me: most of you don't
me: but there is no american money order... most americans don't buy stuff from africa
tracy_isioma : i have cam
tracy_isioma : u care to see
me: and even then you wouldn't be stupid enough to take anything but cash
tracy_isioma : stipid
tracy_isioma : bye
tracy_isioma : dead man
me: it's a bummer when you get caught huh?
me: but at least in Africa you don't go to jail
tracy_isioma : yes
tracy_isioma : we are strong
tracy_isioma : ok
me: yeah that's why you're hustling american for peanuts
me: it will wear out then what.. back to poverty.
BUZZ!!!
tracy_isioma : bye
me: it's a shame you can't take this energy and use it on something honest
tracy_isioma : i work
tracy_isioma : i am banker
tracy_isioma : ok
me: yes trying to steal money from americans
me: wait I thought you were in sales?
tracy_isioma : us are all mad
me: why becasue some honest hard working folks are naive and fall for crap from people like you?

Saturday, May 07, 2005


Francisca or is it Hope? I'm so confused Posted by Hello

Deja Vu All Over Again

So last night I’m on line and I get an instant message from Hope. She tells me she’s from Liberia and this all starts to sound familiar. That old sense of déjà vu. I hear about her dead father and mom is in the hospital. She can’t really talk because she’s going to go visit her mom, but she sends me a picture and promises to return. I open the e-mail with her picture and it’s none other than Francisca my Liberian friend that came clean last week and admitted to the extent that they will that he was a cam artist. I didn’t keep last night’s conversation because it was so short and inconsequential. They returned today and I played along for a while, but it was the same story, I mean exactly the same story as last week. Not even a hint of variation. Big demerits for lack of originality. There was no way that he’d have been so stupid as to not have remembered me so it had to be someone else with the same story. It further reinforces my theory that they work in groups, it sounds like it’s a pretty organized industry. It’s pretty sad when scamming is a growth industry.

This one was a good deal less forthcoming than last week’s and tried to initially claim they were the same person. When I actually pasted in bits of last weeks conversation they made another pitch and then ran off, completely unrepentant. I’m putting this one up not because of the originality but because of the lack of it!



hopeandgood4u: hello scott
hopeandgood4u: how are u doing today
me: I'm okay... you?
hopeandgood4u: im not feeling ok here
me: oh that's too bad
hopeandgood4u: yes
hopeandgood4u: my mum colapes again
hopeandgood4u: this morning
me: I see... bummer
hopeandgood4u: the doctor said she has kidney problem
me: ok
hopeandgood4u: and need to undergo kidney transplanting operation
hopeandgood4u: b4 it late
me: ok
hopeandgood4u: how u think that will cost overr there
me: here? oh I don't know... prbably 50-100,000
hopeandgood4u: ohh thats alot of money
me: yes medical care is very expensive here everyone has insurance
hopeandgood4u: the doctor said i should deposit $3500 b4 the operation commence
me: ohh ok
hopeandgood4u: but one of mum old friend that just arrive from mexico want to helpme to pay the deposit for the operation
me: ohh ok
hopeandgood4u: but she is helping me with condition
hopeandgood4u: and that make me feel worried here
me: I see
hopeandgood4u: cos i dont have anyone to help me
me: that's too bad
hopeandgood4u: she said she has no physical cash to help me for now that she can only help me with check drawn in us bank
hopeandgood4u: that if i only i can get someone to help me to cash the check for me over there
me: I see... have her call the us bank and arrange a transfer
hopeandgood4u: and send the money to me here so that mum operation can commence
hopeandgood4u: she came for a project here in africa
hopeandgood4u: and she is willing to help me b4 my mum gave upto ghost
me: well it's no problem if she has an account in a us bank she can arrange a transfer from there
me: still there?
hopeandgood4u: yes
me: oh ok
hopeandgood4u: but she is only direct his payment to yoyu
hopeandgood4u: to be paid,by check
me: well that's just dumb
hopeandgood4u: over there
me: you'd have to wait a month for the money
hopeandgood4u: bcos the check we not be cash here in our local bank
hopeandgood4u: wwhy
hopeandgood4u: dont u have a checking account
hopeandgood4u: to cash it
hopeandgood4u: u there
me: yes but all she has to do is call her bank... answer some security questions explain the situation and they will arrange a transfer for her
me: you can have the money in 24 hours
hopeandgood4u: it we not work here
hopeandgood4u: this is africa'
me: this has nothing to do with africa
hopeandgood4u: we are underdeveloped nation
hopeandgood4u: is all this is possible
hopeandgood4u: i we not be asking you for this help
me: as long as you have a phone that will reasvh the us
hopeandgood4u: bcos i dont wana lose my mum
me: well you'd have to wait a month at least...
me: if you send it to me
me: a week for the check to get here
me: 2 or 3 weeks for it to clear
me: and then I have to be in town to do a transfer
hopeandgood4u: no u send the money through western union money transfer
hopeandgood4u: it save and fast here
me: yeah but I can't do that until I get the check and it clears the bank
hopeandgood4u: u will pay it in ur checking account
me: my bank won'k give me the money until the check clears
hopeandgood4u: and u will withdra fast and send the money fast tome here
hopeandgood4u: it a good check
hopeandgood4u: just take it to ur bank
me: I wouldn't send money to the pope unless the check had cleared
hopeandgood4u: cos my mum is in point of death here
me: you know what?
hopeandgood4u: how long the check get to clear over there
hopeandgood4u: wht
hopeandgood4u: ?
me: 3 weeks
me: I got the same fucking story last week
hopeandgood4u: this is matter of life and death
me: so how is francisca?
hopeandgood4u: not fucking story
me: franca4u0147?
me: same picture and everything
me: frankly I'm really disappointed
me: I expect a little orignality
hopeandgood4u: am still the same pic
me: so was franca4u0147
hopeandgood4u: im the one that have the pic
me: you're a week late
hopeandgood4u: that was my mum name
me: ohh I see...
hopeandgood4u: if u want tobelieve me u can sign in there now
me: you guys really need to keep better track of who you hit on
hopeandgood4u: u will see me there
me: sign in where?
me: you see I finally got franca4u0147 to admit he was really a guy
me: with a scam
me: I mean you used the same script exactly
hopeandgood4u: to franca4u0147
hopeandgood4u: no
me: it's really disapointing
hopeandgood4u: believe me scott
me: right
me: I've got a nice bridge for sale.. too
me: it's red... very famous
hopeandgood4u: its a lady
me: I can give you a really good deal
me: so explain to me how I can get the exact same store from 2 people a week apart??
hopeandgood4u: be serious scott
me: I am serious
hopeandgood4u: am telling u all this cos u sound nice to me
hopeandgood4u: plz be of help b4 my mum die

At This point I pasted in some of last weeks conversation

me: franca4u0147: mum have a kidney problem
franca4u0147: this make me worried
me: I see...
franca4u0147: can u do me a favoure?
me: what's that?
franca4u0147: one of mum old freind just arrive from mexico saw mum condition she feel so bad 4 her
me: I see
franca4u0147: but promise to help me whit some cash
me: I see
franca4u0147: but she said 4 now she has no cash at hand
me: oh I see
franca4u0147: but promise to issue me a check drawn in U.S A BANK
franca4u0147: but on one condition
me: hat's that?
franca4u0147: she said if only i have trusted friend over there that can help me to cash the money and send back for mom opration to commense queicly
franca4u0147: pls can u help me to cash the check?

hopeandgood4u: plz
me: sound familiar?
hopeandgood4u: am still the same the lady that spoke to u
hopeandgood4u: plz be of help
me: right...
hopeandgood4u: im worried here
me: you know that's not ther case
hopeandgood4u: if cos of my dad death to war
me: right
hopeandgood4u: all this will not be aproblem for me
hopeandgood4u: help me to save my mum
hopeandgood4u: scott u stand as my last hope for now
hopeandgood4u: plz
hopeandgood4u: im worried
me: so I guess you do'nt remember this part of our conversation

I then pasted in the part of the conversation where he admitted be a guy last week


me: me: nice meeting you too..
me: my guess is you're not even a woman right?
franca4u0147: can we be a business partner
me: no don't think so...
me: I have a conscience
franca4u0147: do u think im a woman b4
franca4u0147: so u are 100% fool
me: oh I was never sure
franca4u0147: why all american man like to talk to woman than man
me: well black Africans have gotten such a bad rap there is no hope for them
me: too many really ridiculous scams
franca4u0147: my hope
franca4u0147: mr hope
franca4u0147: how many house av u build over there

me: rule 1.... make your own scam
me: don't use someone else's
me: rule 2 if you're working as a team make sure everyone knows who the fuck you're hitting on
me: it's a sure way to put yourself out of business
me: stupid
me: stupid
me: stupid
hopeandgood4u: k
hopeandgood4u: bye
me: give my best to Godwin
hopeandgood4u: who is that
me: isn't that who Francisca is really?
hopeandgood4u: no
me: ohh sorry what is his name?
hopeandgood4u: may some one is using my id to chat with u
hopeandgood4u: k
hopeandgood4u: i dont know all wht u are saying
me: right and just happend to have the exact same story you did
hopeandgood4u: am from liberia right
me: or do you just buy these stories from someone and free lance?
me: yup so was last weeks
me: it's the exact same story
me: but waay less efeective the 2nd time around
hopeandgood4u: i know nothing about wht u r saying
hopeandgood4u: if u wish to help me
hopeandgood4u: tell me
me: no you're a scam artist
hopeandgood4u: i dont know wht u are saying about
me: a thief and a fraud
me: come on i'm on to you
hopeandgood4u: why u have to say that to me
me: there is no mom
me: no hospital
me: no check
me: no mexican
me: I'm not an idiot
me: what I can't believe is you would be so stupid as to use the exact same story as someone else
me: and then try to tell me it was your mother
me: one thing about you you've got nerve

Friday, May 06, 2005

A Big Time Scammer's Pitch

I'd been waiting for this. It had been a while since I had been approached by a big time scammer in chat. Not even a nibble since I started my blog. Well today my luck changed and boy did it ever. For the first time I felt truly in danger in doing this blog, not from any harm the African could do to me but from laughing so hard.

It was a typical African scam, millions sitting in a bank account, no one to claim them, I get 40% if I help.

This scam also goes to the lengths they go to try to make their story believable. To prove he was real he used a link to the passenger manifest of the Alaska Air flight that went down off Los Angeles some years ago. He had selected one of the passengers on the doomed flight as his imaginary account holder.

CNN Story

Now of all the passengers on the flight he chose one of the most improbable to be his imaginary account holder.

Their biography as it appeared in the CNN story follows:

Toni Choate, a Santa Cruz man who was living as a woman, was returning to the San Francisco Bay area with his daughter, Jacquelyn Choate, 18, after vacationing in Mexico.

Toni Choate was a general contractor and cabinet finisher originally from Visalia, California. He was formerly known as Larry D. Choate, but changed his name and started living as a woman in the mid-1990s, according to friends and relatives in California's San Joaquin Valley.

Until the early 1990s, Larry Choate worked with his father building houses in the Visalia area.

He then moved to Sacramento, California, living there about five years and building redwood decks for condominiums, said Vicki Elliott, a friend. Sometime during that period, Choate began to identify himself as a woman.

Choate moved to Santa Cruz in 1995 and bought the Savoy Bar in Santa Clara, California. About a year ago, Choate moved to San Francisco.

Jacquelyn Choate grew up in Sacramento. "They were real close," Elliott said of the father and daughter.


Now I hope that if anyone that knew Toni reads this blog that they don't take offense, but of all the passengers on the flight my scammer chose one of the more imporbable people. It never did become clear to me how a transgender contractor from Santa Cruz came to have $6.5 million in a Nigerian bank!

As I played this guy along, it became clear that they have no idea how to deal with someone that isn't greedy. The one thing that isn't clear as you read the text of our conversation is how long the pauses are. I thought he was onto me several times but it became clear he didn't know how to deal with me. I swear they are sitting in a big data processing center somewhere and they are stopping to ask their supervisors for advice! He couldn't believe I didn't want the money. All I wanted was a small payment for my time. The nerve of me.. He kept talking because he thought I was a mark but had no idea on how to deal with people that weren't greedy.

So without further ado.. Here is jon4real

jons_4real: male 34 nigeria
jons_4real: where r u from
me: ok ok
me: california
jons_4real: ur age and occupation?>
me: 50 partner in a software company
jons_4real: great
jons_4real: am banker ,i work wt fidelity bank plc
me: I see
jons_4real: am here to discus wt you maybe you can handle some business transaction for me over there and you benefit from it
me: ok what's that?
jons_4real: like i told you am banker,theres a lot of money lying here unclaimed in our bank where i worked
me: I see
jons_4real: the depositor of this money is from usa
jons_4real: but he was late now ,he died with wife and kid in plane crash going to alaska
me: what does that have to do with me?
jons_4real: so nobody come out as next of kin to his money ever since the deporsitor died with wife and kid
me: I see... so how do you know he died in Alaska?
jons_4real: all effort made by bank to locate the next of kin to this money proved abortive
me: yeah but how did you find out he died? I still don't understand
jons_4real: i can give you the site ,so that yopu can go for gogle search
jons_4real: so that is why i need your help ,so that you can stand as next of kin to this money over there and you claim it for me
me: so you just randomly search google for people that died that are depositors in your bank?
me: I still don't understand how you found out he died
jons_4real: can you give me your email address ,so that i can send you details about the money and the late deporsitor of the money
me: well let's just chat here for now...
me: you can tell me here
jons_4real: so that when you read the letter mail you will; understand me wel
jons_4real: just for you to undestand it well
me: ohh I have a pretty good idea... I just don't understand how you found out he died
me: unless someone contacted you you'd think he was still alive
jons_4real: the late deporsitor of this money was foriengh contractor here in nigeri but he was from usa
me: yeah I got that... so how did you find out he died
me: look I'd like to help if I can but there are so many scams I need to be sure this is real
jons_4real: and he lost his life when he was going to his resident in califonia
me: I see..
jons_4real: am too sure of this transaction because i work wt the bank
me: well if he's a california resident it's easy... contact the state of california... they will help you
me: they have a huge program to locate next of kin
jons_4real: this money was lying here unclaimed for a long time
me: yes.. but if I get you you want me to pretend to be his next of kin right?
jons_4real: and the federal goverment has told the bank tro locate the next of kin to this money proved abortive
jons_4real: so i want you to stand as next of kin to the money over there and you claim it for me
jons_4real: yes
me: well there's a big problem with that
jons_4real: all the document that will basck you as next of kin shall be provide by me here
me: since I'm a California resident and I do that and some real relative or a will shows up... I'll go to jail for fraud
jons_4real: am the one that will processing you to the money here as next of kin to the fund
jons_4real: just for you to stand as beneficiary to the fund and you claim it for me
me: but you see my problem?
jons_4real: i want you to relax your mind in this transaction
jons_4real: b'cos is legal transaction
jons_4real: and not attarced any risk
me: ohh I can't I know california law... at some point their estate will be probated and someone will do a complete asset search and they will find the account you've got
me: sure you're asking me to commit fraud.. it's a huge risk
jons_4real: b'cos nobody come out as next of kin to the money ever since the deporsitor of the money died with wife and kid
me: you're safe...
jons_4real: am assureing you that you cant get into any trouble
me: I know but if he died and is a resident of california they'll eventually settle his estate
me: well how much do you know about california law?
jons_4real: am the one that will processing you to the money here in our bank central computer
me: yes so we do this and six months later someone from the state comes looking for the money?
me: and you tell them oh we gave it to Scott... then the state comes to me and arrests me
jons_4real: i told you thaty this money was lying here since year 2000
jons_4real: so nobody come of it siue the deporsitor died
me: well that's not long for the state.... here the bank will hold the money for 4 years and the state another 7
me: so it would be antoher 5 or 6 years that they could come looking
jons_4real: wait let give you some details here
jons_4real: okay?
jons_4real: I greet you in the name of GOD, the Beneficent, theMerciful.
Greetings from Nigeria,Before I introduce myself, I wish
to inform you that this letter is not a hoax mail and
I urge you to treat it serious. We want to transfer to
overseas account ($6.5 USD)Six.Five Million United States Dollars) from a Bank here in Nigeria Fidelity bank plc lagos nigeria. I want to ask you, If you are not capable to quietly look for a reliable and honest person who will be capable and fit to provide
either an existing bank account or to set up a new
Bank a/c immediately to receive this money, even an
empty a/c can serve to receive this money, as long as
you will remain honest to me till the end for this
important business trusting in you and believing in
God that you will never let me down eith
me: well you've told me he was a california resident so his estate will be govened by california law
me: this sounds one of those African scam letters everyone gets
jons_4real: do you read the letter i give you now?
me: yes
jons_4real: pls go thru the letter now
me: I did I read fast
jons_4real: no am not here for that
jons_4real: this ia real transaction
me: of course not
jons_4real: i work wt the bank here
me: so how much you going to pay me?
jons_4real: so be rest asured in what i told you
jons_4real: am MR. Johnson Williams,During the course of our auditing last week,
I discovered a floating fund in an account opened in
the bank in 2000 and since 2005 nobody has operated on
this account again,after going through some old files
in the records I discovered that the owner of the
account died without a [Heir/WILL] hence the money is
floating and if I do not remit this money out urgently
it will be for feited for nothing.
The owner of this account MR TONI CHAOTE an American
and great industrialist and a resident of Visalia
California, who unfortunately lost his life in
the plane crash of Alaska Airlines Flight 261 which
crahsed,including his wife and kids nobody to claim the money. You shall read more news about the crash on visiting this site
jons_4real: http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/02/01/alaska.airlines.list/
and http://www.alaskaair.com/E_latest.asp.
me: wait you said this happened in alaska?
jons_4real: No other person knows about this account or any thing
concerning it,the account has no other beneficiary and
my investigation proved to me as
well that the account is a secret account.
The total amount involve is Six.Five million United States
Dollars only [$6.5]and we wish to transfer
this money into a safe foreigners account abroad. But
I don't know any foreigner, I am only contacting you
as a foreigner because this money can not be approved
to a local person here,but to a foreigner who has
information about the account, which I shall give to
you upon your positive response.I am revealing this to
you with believe in God that you will never let me
down in this business, you are the first and the only
person that I am contacting for this business, so
please reply urgentl
me: this flight went down off LA
me: you just said he was from Visalia... but the news article says he was from Santa Cruz
jons_4real: i said he lost his life when he was going to his resident
me: you said he was with his wife
me: but his wife isn't listed on the passenger manifest
jons_4real: i said he was usa
me: you said hi son
me: his daughter died
me: damn did you get anythnig right?
jons_4real: but he lives here in nigeria b4 he died with wife and kid
jons_4real: yes
jons_4real: you go for the gogle search
me: but you said he was an industrialist from visalia
jons_4real: and you read more news about the plane crash
me: the news article said he was drom santa cruz
me: I am
me: but it's pretty obvious you haven't
jons_4real: yhe was great industrialist here in nigeria
jons_4real: he lives his live like a woman b4
me: I'm sorry I'm laughing too hard
jons_4real: do you go for gogle search of it?
me: this is the funniest scam anyone has ever tried on me
jons_4real: relax you mind this is sure trannsaction
me: you miseed your calling
jons_4real: am the one that will processiung you to the money here
me: of all the passengers on the list you pick the transgenger one???
jons_4real: I need your strong assurance that you will never let
me down, me and .I guarantee that
this transaction will be executed under a legitimate
arrangement that will protect you from any breach of
the law.The bank official Will destroy all documents
of transaction immediately we receive this money
leaving no trace to any place.I will use my position
and influence to obtain all legal approvals for onward
transfer of this money to your account with
appropriate clearance from the relevant ministries and
foreign exchange departments.
I look forward to your earliest reply. PLEASE, TREAT THIS PROPOSAL
AS TOP SECRET.
THANKS.
me: so how does a transgender cabinet finisher from Santa Cruz become a great industrialist in Nigeria
me: stop pasting and talk to me
jons_4real: wait
jons_4real: listen to me
me: so what industry was he in in Nigeria
me: or is it she.. i'm confused
me: so was he aparently
me: still there?
me: hello?
jons_4real: i told you the deporsitor of this money was a great industrialist b4 he died
me: so what industry?
me: what business was he in in Nigeria?
me: okay time to end the torture...
me: smile you're on candid scammer
me: still there?
me: did you give up?
me: awwww come back... this was so much fun
jons_4real: i told you he was foriengh contractor here in nigeria
BUZZ!!!
jons_4real: sorry i got disconet
jons_4real: am here now
me: so tell me how does a transgender cabinet maker get $6.5 million in Nigeria?
jons_4real: i want you to stand as next of kin to this money over there
jons_4real: and you claim it for me
me: well this is a big risk for me...
jons_4real: and you get ur 40%from the money fore your own share
me: ohh no I don't do percentages...
me: I'll work for a flat fee
jons_4real: but i told you he got some contrat from federal republic of nigeria
me: I see... they give a lot of contracts to chicks with dicks?
jons_4real: and he deporsited the money in our bank here where i worked,fidelity bank plc
me: ohh ok
jons_4real: do you remember the deporsitor name?
me: well I'll help you but we have to work my way
me: Tony Chaote
jons_4real: i want you to relax your mind in this transaction
jons_4real: is legal transaction
jons_4real: and is risk free transaction
me: okay... I don't want a percentage though
jons_4real: and i can asuired you that everything will work out fine
me: just a flat fee for my risk
jons_4real: where r u from and your age?
me: I told you I'm 50 from California
jons_4real: but am the one that will processing you to the money here om our bank
jons_4real: but i will need some information from you to start wt the processing you to the money here
me: okay but here's the deal.. you can keep all the money.. just pay me a fee for my time.. it's a much better deal for you
jons_4real: i need your trust in this transaction ,because thius money will be transafer to your bank account over there
jons_4real: can you handle it for me?
me: no I suggest we move the money to switzerland or the cayman islands
me: sure.. just send me $5000 via western union to get me started and I'll handle the deal for you
jons_4real: why are you saying this to me
jons_4real: this a lot of money am telling you now
me: becasue us banks look too closely
jons_4real: and i asured you thay everything will work out fine
me: yes but I don't work that way...
me: I just do fee for service work
me: why are you arguing with me... I'm offering you a much better deal
jons_4real: i want you to stand as next of kjin to the money over there
jons_4real: and i will provide you all the document that will back you as next of kin to the money here in our bank
me: yes I understand what you want... I'll do the whole deal for you for $20,000 plus expenses
me: then you can have all the rest of the money... that fair?
jons_4real: but i told you that 40%for you
me: send me 25% up front and the balance once everything is settled
me: yeah I don't want it... I told you what I want
jons_4real: do you know how much is the 40%of the money?
me: yes
me: but it's not mine so I don't want it...
me: I'll do it for you but only want what I asked for
jons_4real: how much is iut?
me: about 2.7 mill
me: but if I take the money I put myself in more risk
me: I'll do it for you on a fee for service basis
jons_4real: i told yu the money will be transfer to your bank acount over there ,and after you recive the money there i will fly down to you to split the money
me: this is a fabulous deal for you
me: no the money should never come to the US... I suggest the Cayman Islands
me: so if you send me $5,000 I'll fly down there and set up the accounts
jons_4real: but i will need your information to processing you to the money here in our bank central computer as next of kin to the money
me: well I'd need some good faith payment from you before I could give you that
jons_4real: no
me: too many scam artists out there
jons_4real: the money will be transfer to your bank account from my bank here where thew money is
me: well maybe only $1000 to show there really is money and that this isn't another African scam
jons_4real: i told you am here for real
me: if you've got 6.5 mill in a dormant account I know a banker could move $1000 of it to me to demonstrate good faith
jons_4real: am too sure of this deal
me: yes but all the scam artists say they're real
me: I'd need proof
jons_4real: okay
jons_4real: lrt get it done
me: I'd need it western union
jons_4real: and you will see it urself when contacting as next of kin to the money
jons_4real: you will confirm everything from our bank managing director
me: sure I can be Tony's cousin
jons_4real: about the money and the late deporsitor of the money
me: yes as soon as I get the good faith payment from you
me: u there?
me: hello?
jons_4real: yes
jons_4real: what proved do you want?
me: I want at 25% retainer of my fee.. $5,000
jons_4real: yes
me: soon as I get that we can get started
jons_4real: if you sure you can handle it for me let get it done,you're the one that will recieve the money in your account there so evcerything is in your hand
me: you don't understand I need an up fornt payment to proceed
jons_4real: am the one whom surpose to be woried about ur trust in this transaction
me: once I have that I'll fly to switzerland or to the cayman islands and set up the accounts for you
jons_4real: i dont have any money to send to you ,am diedly broke this time that is why am into this transaction
me: surely you must know how many people have lost money in Africans deals like this that turned out to be scams
jons_4real: so if you are capable to handle it for let start wt the process now
me: but if you have access to this account surely you can move a little no one woild ever notisce 5000 in a domrant account
jons_4real: i told you am not here for scam
me: but how do I know?
me: I need a good faith payment... plus I'm offering you a real deal here
me: I'm not going to take a % you will end up with 2.7 million more
jons_4real: i told you is only forienghner can claim the money out from the bank ,b'cos it was deporsited there by a foriewngh contractor
jons_4real: that is why i need your help to handle it for me
me: yeah but if you are high enough up to do this deal you're high enough up to siphon off $5,000 and send it to me...
me: you're only risk is an audit and by the you'll have the whole 6.5 mill so why do you care??
me: still there?
jons_4real: yes
jons_4real: am here
me: see I don't get it... I'm offering you a huge deal with very little risk to you
me: unless there really isn't any money
jons_4real: but i told you am not thye one that will send you the money to your bank account ,is the bank will transfer the money to ur bank acount
me: but you work at the bank.. you must be able to skim a little of that money...
me: jut do an account to account transfer
jons_4real: and that was after you contact the bank by mail
me: no one will notice..
me: but i'm offering you a much better offer
me: no percentages...
jons_4real: you know the bank those not know am the one give this information out to you
me: yes I understand
jons_4real: so i cant get into the money to send to you
me: so you don't have any authority at the bank?
jons_4real: you will not mettoin my name to the bank director when contacthing as next of kin to the money
me: well if you can't do the deal my way I can't help you
jons_4real: i work wt the bank as banker ,but i cant do anything about the asccount
jons_4real: am just here to processinmg you to the money here as next of kin to the money
me: so you work as a banker you should be able to make some small transfers right?
jons_4real: and after am finish wt the process you to the monbey
jons_4real: i will give you all our bank contact address
me: see if you can't produce a little money up front to make me feel better about this I don't think I can go forward..
jons_4real: so that you can send mail to the bank as next of kin to the moiney
me: just too many scam artists in African
me: I'd feel so much better helping you if I had a lttle money to prove it wasn't a scam
jons_4real: and you tell the bank director that you're the next of kin to the late mr toni chaote
me: I understand all that
jons_4real: ok
me: but I'm just afraid it's not real
jons_4real: bye
jons_4real: forget it then
me: smile you're on candid scammer
jons_4real: since you're not capable to handle it for me
me: I know you're a fraud
me: I've known you were one since the start
me: you're really bad at it dude
jons_4real: but if you cant belive me
me: I've been playing you
jons_4real: forget it
me: I have a web site where I expose scam artists
jons_4real: free wold
me: you were really good... this is the funniest one yet
me: I have to complement you on your choice of dead industrialists
me: the humor in that is just so good
jons_4real: am too sure of this transactrion
me: well then send me 5k and we'll do it...
me: hell of a deal.. I'll even cap out my expenses at 10k.. so 30k max
me: I'll even fly to nigeria and do it im person for that
me: 30k or 2.7 million.. what's a better deal for you?
me: and only 5K up front!
jons_4real: ok bye
jons_4real: good luck
me: bye...
me: so tell me now that you know that I know that you're a fraud.. how often do you get someone that sends you money?
me: oh are you still a wannabe fraudster???

Thursday, May 05, 2005

Where am I?

Today we had a fairly typical scam.. Pretty plain vanilla except for my scammer's complete ignorance of geography. I've found it's a really easy way to trap someone, especially if they tell you they are from someplace that they're not. I think what they do is get the name of a city from one mark and use it with the next one. She told me she was from Princeton, IL, to which I responded "Oh is that in Southern Illinois?" and she said yes. Now Princeton is a little west of Chicago and if you were actually from there you'd immediately correct me. What was funny with this one was they didn't even know where Kenya was, they thought it was near Nigeria.

I'm more convinced than ever that they work in packs as this was the second scammer in a week to tell me they were from Princeton. It's too much of a coincidence to be otherwise. Also while I was talking to this one, the other one came on and said I must not like her because I never write her.. I guess I'm just a heartbreaker.. I haven't published her story yet, I keep waiting for her to get to the point but she keeps dragging it on. We'll see if she was really brushing me off or firing for effect.

The funny thing is they expect you to be honest, so when you say something they agree, not expecting you to try and deceive them. That after all is their job and they can't imagine that you are on to them. I guess my hobby is not very common because they are utterly defenseless to anyone playing games with them.

A couple of wrinkles, this one asked what sort of car I drove and how much I paid for it, I guess trying to size up how much I'd be good for. This one did make a vain attempt to use a web search when I started asking questions about Chicago, so they do get a few bonus points for that. The only indication that they figured out they'd been had was when they uttered "damn" but then they clammed up and gave up.

Her Profile

sandra_luv300: hello
me: hi
sandra_luv300: how are u doing?
me: I;m ok you?
sandra_luv300: just kool
me: that;s good
sandra_luv300: so what are u doing now?
me: just working and chatting a little
sandra_luv300: that's kool
me: ok
sandra_luv300: asl plz
me: ohh I'm old
me: m
me: california
me: you?
sandra_luv300: 29 f il
me: ohh okay... what part of illinois?
sandra_luv300: princeton
sandra_luv300: do u know there
me: it's in southern illinois isn't it?
sandra_luv300: yes
me: ohh okay don't know it exactly
sandra_luv300: but are u married?
me: no I'm a widower
sandra_luv300: oh ic
sandra_luv300: so do u have kids?
me: no kids
sandra_luv300: oh
sandra_luv300: so what are u doing for a living?
me: I'm a partner in a software company
sandra_luv300: that's nice
me: sometimes
sandra_luv300: do u have a car?
me: yes
sandra_luv300: what type of series?
me: volvo
sandra_luv300: how much do u buy it?
sandra_luv300: if i may ask?
me: is that important?
me: well you're from illinois.. you should have a good idea what they run
sandra_luv300: oh ic
sandra_luv300: so what are u doing for fun today?
me: ohh I don't know probably nothing special.... you?
sandra_luv300: JUST CHILLING
sandra_luv300: do u have cam?
me: yes
me: do you?
sandra_luv300: yes but frozen
me: oic
sandra_luv300: so what are u doing for fun todat?
me: same as when you asked me 2 minutes ago
sandra_luv300: okay
sandra_luv300: where are u in Ca?
me: near san francisco
sandra_luv300: oh i know there
me: ohh okay.. ever been here?
sandra_luv300: yes
sandra_luv300: do u know san diego?
me: yes..
me: what did you see in SF?
sandra_luv300: my friend former lives there
me: I see... where is that?
sandra_luv300: san diego?
me: ohh I thought you meant SF... where in San Diego?
sandra_luv300: amherst street
me: what part of san diego... I wasn't looking for a street... more and area
sandra_luv300: south part
me: ohh ok towards la then
sandra_luv300: yes
me: ic ok
sandra_luv300: have u ever went on vacation before?
me: been on every continent but antartica on vacation at one point or antoher
sandra_luv300: have u been to africa?
me: yes..... Kenya
sandra_luv300: oh nice
sandra_luv300: it's near nigeria
me: well not that close... other side of the continent
sandra_luv300: but kenya is a west africa also
me: kenya is east africa... it's on the indian ocean
sandra_luv300: oh it's true
me: ok
sandra_luv300: are u always online?
me: quite often yes
sandra_luv300: same with me
sandra_luv300: wow
sandra_luv300: u are cute
me: thanks
sandra_luv300: do u have gf?
me: no no gf
sandra_luv300: really?
me: really
sandra_luv300: same with me........i dont have a bf
me: ohh ok
sandra_luv300: can i add u?
me: sure if you like
sandra_luv300: okay
sandra_luv300: so what time are u right now?
me: 315pm
sandra_luv300: oh it's 11;15pm
sandra_luv300: here
me: ok
sandra_luv300: do u live alone?
me: yes
sandra_luv300: can i come and meet u very soon?
me: where?
sandra_luv300: in SF
me: sure in SF I could meet you
sandra_luv300: okay
sandra_luv300: when do u want me to come?
me: that's up to you
sandra_luv300: u want me to decide?
me: sure
sandra_luv300: okay
sandra_luv300: i will be coming by august
me: ok
sandra_luv300: so can u give me ur house address?
me: in august
me: you certainly don't need it now
sandra_luv300: okay
sandra_luv300: but huney i need ur help in something?
me: what's that?
sandra_luv300: my client gave me a money order........so i will like u to help me cash it for now
me: ohh sorry I can't do that
sandra_luv300: that's the money i want to use and buy a flight ticket before i can come to u
me: ah well I'm sure you'll work something out... where is this client?
sandra_luv300: His now in holland
me: I see... well you're from illinois you should know american banks don't take 3rd party checks any more
sandra_luv300: they will receive it
sandra_luv300: bcos have confirmed it before i will send it to u hun
me: who is they and what will the receive?
sandra_luv300: the banks
me: it's a money order made out to you right?
sandra_luv300: it's now with me hun
me: okay then I can't help you... my bank will only take checks made out to me
me: why did you let your client give you a money order in the 1st place if you can't cash it anywhere?
sandra_luv300: i dont know that he will pay it with moneyorder
me: I see
sandra_luv300: that's the mistake that i did
me: ok well I still can't help you
me: don't you still have a bank account in illinois?
sandra_luv300: nope
me: why not?
sandra_luv300: i closed the account when i was coming to africa
me: I see.. well that's too bad..
sandra_luv300: but when i comes back i will reopen another one
me: ok
me: no family still in illinois?
sandra_luv300: i'm the only daughter of my parent
me: oic
sandra_luv300: and my parent are now in scotland
sandra_luv300: for now
me: living there?
sandra_luv300: nope
sandra_luv300: they will be coming back by september
me: I see...
me: well that's a long time to be there how are they doing their banking?
sandra_luv300: they are working there also
me: ohh okay then they must have a bank account in scotland.. you can send them the money order
sandra_luv300: it's a usa money order
me: no problem in Scotland
sandra_luv300: not international money order hun
me: I send american checks to the uk all the time
sandra_luv300: u can cash it elseway
me: no I told you I can't
sandra_luv300: huney comeon
sandra_luv300: the money is not much
sandra_luv300: is only $5000
me: I told you my bank won't accept it if it's made out to you
me: gee only $5000.. nothing
sandra_luv300: u can go and cash it at another bank hun
me: are you really from illinois???????
sandra_luv300: yes
me: that's hard to believe after a statement like that... you should know that no bank will cash a check or a money order if you don't have an account with them..
sandra_luv300: yes i know
sandra_luv300: but ur name will be at the money order........as the receiver okay
me: so I can't help you... my bank flat out won't take a money order from me made out to you
sandra_luv300: okay
me: well how can that be? you just told me that your client sent it to you as payment.. there is not way he'd do that without putting you name on it
sandra_luv300: i will reprint the name
me: then it will look like it was forged and my bank won't take it and then yours won't either
sandra_luv300: i promise u they will
sandra_luv300: just try and see
me: you know what?
sandra_luv300: they will give u the money hun
me: smile you're on candid scammer
me: you're not from illinois
me: you've never been to san diego
sandra_luv300: why do u say so hun
me: you're not the sexy white girl on your profile
sandra_luv300: damn
me: you're most likely not even a girl
sandra_luv300: are u insulting me
me: well 1... you should figure out where the hell you're from
me: princeton is a suburb of chicago
me: not in southen illinois
me: mexico is south of san diego not LA
me: it's a really old lame scam... how often do you get someone to fall for it?
sandra_luv300: i can't be lieing to u
me: oh? why is that?
sandra_luv300: u said i'm a lier
me: well you are
me: so what are the airports in chicago?
me: if you're from princeton you'd know that
me: come on it's an easy question
me: what lake is chicago on??
me: come on... tell me a little about Illinois
me: you're from there after all...
me: are there people that are really dumb enough to believe you????????
sandra_luv300: Chicago Midway International Airport

me: so what's the bigger one?
me: come on
me: you can hit it with a rock from Princeton
me: too slow.. you lose but hey thanks for playing
me: but at least you tried a web search... more than most of you do
me: you see I have a hobby
sandra_luv300 has stopped viewing your webcam.

me: awww running off?
me: dont ya hate it when the scam artist gets scammed???
sandra_luv300: dont be stupid
me: I'm not that's why I don't believe you
me: if you want to pull this off don't pretend to be from some place you know nothing about...
me: it would be like me trying to convice you I'm from Lago
me: it's too easy to get trapped in a lie
me: and you did in out 1st minute of conversation
me: I don't know why I'm telling you this... it's my mission to put guys like you out of business
me: awwww guess you don't want to talk to me any more